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Hook, line, and sinker
[serious] Who is this for?
It’s made as an informative meme. Freely distributable.
That doesn’t really make sense at the end…
Like, it’s structured so that logically it’s a conclusion but it’s not.
A bottom-up power structure is left wing, but in it the power lies with the voters, not those elected to office:
The federal party, works for the state parties and the presidential nominee.
The state parties actually do a lot here, they have a lot of primaries to organize (neutrally) and then assist all the campaigns.
In both cases though, the politicians are beholden to the voters, and should be governing based on the wishes of the majority of their constituents.
What would go a long way to fixing that would be an easy route to recall elections.
Arguably the sweet spot in any representative democracy is somewhere in the middle. So the struggle of left and right ensures a balanced political landscape. Too much distribution of power ensures nothing gets done, to little and we get that dictator situation.
I know this is supposed to be “left good right bad, mkay”. Let’s have some balanced takes around these parts. <3
“Guys, why can’t we compromise, let’s find a balance with the people who want total, private control over the means by which to survive and build a society so they can personally enrich themselves from artificially created scarcity.”
This is you right now.
Yeah let’s not compromise and be the same assholes and become what we seek to destroy. If only we had a lefty dictator then his benevolence will make everything better. Hitler was a problem, let’s to Stalin again… ;)
Cool story, thanks for highlighting you know diddly squat about political theory and alternative ideologies.
Sounds alot like more than you assume about political theory my friend.
This is a presumption we make, but CIA analyses of societies as they democratize (reform their election systems to better represent the people) don’t seem to slow down as much as we predicted. Perhaps the metric is misgauged much like the Laffer curve, and the sweet spot is to the left of center, somewhere that no nation has yet explored.
Ideally, as citizens have the time and energy to become civically engaged and aware of their own best interests, as information is better accessible to them, distribution of power outward can be afforded with much less slowdown.
And to be fair, progress in neoliberal states is ratcheted back by right-wing institutions such as SCOTUS, not due to the power distribution of the election system.
Um… is this sweet spot in the room with us right now?
Yeah, in one of these scenarios, things don’t get done and in the other, people’s freedoms are taken.
Real difficult to decide which extreme I’d take.
And yes, I know the actual implication here is that public services fail and infrastructure isn’t as viable. But I would take free and struggling over oppressed and struggling no matter what.
If the direct reward for obeying the system was health and riches, it’d probably be a genuinely difficult choice, but that’s not the actual choice we’re being offered. They want to take your freedom and your wellbeing.
There are lots of ways to think about it. Saying ‘think about it this way, that’s it, stop thinking about it’, is fundamentally a fascist message.
Distracting & strawmaning much?
No, just pointing out that oversimplifying things and then using a thought terminating phrase to make it sound like you made a conclusive point is what fascists do.
Creating a model of some process to better understand it is a scientific approach. Also, feel free to “terminate your thoughts” but don’t go insinuating deviating meanings to everyday expressions.
‘That’s it’ is the fascist thought terminating part.
It does not invite further inquiry or scrutiny, it acts like that’s the only possible lens to view left wing / right wing through, when at its core, left wing / right wing is a massive oversimplification of literally the entire population’s political views into a binary us vs them pattern.
It’d be like dividing the entirety of the animal kingdom into birds and not-birds and saying ‘Birds have wings, not-birds don’t have wings. That’s it.’
Perhaps it’s fascist for some definition of fascist I am not aware of.
That’s it. in this case, is meant to express the logic should be obvious.
Perhaps to you it is not so obvious?
Lol, a thought terminating phrase isn’t an argument.
It’s not a fascism either.
Saying ‘this oversimplified thing is the way it is, stop thinking about it’ is fundamentally a fascist message.
Do some self reflection.
Meh. I think the logic I present is simple enough to follow, and no, I’m not discouraging additional thought, rather dismissing more complex models that muddy the proverbial waters.
I’ll leave you to your own presumptions; I can’t reach everybody.
Meh. I think the logic I present is simple enough to follow,
It is, and it’s not an invaluable to lens to look through.
I’m not discouraging additional thought, rather dismissing more complex models that muddy the proverbial waters.
By saying ‘that’s it’, you absolutely are discouraging additional thought. You are confidently saying that that is the only possible lens to view things through.
At an extremely basic level, another lens is the anarchism vs communism lens, i.e. one of distributed decentralized systems, or one of controlled centralized systems. And there are numerous other lens that you can view the left/wing right/wing divide, on top of the fact that that divide varies wildly by region.
By this measure, Putin, Xi, and Maduro are right wing.
Not saying it’s wrong, just extending it to the logical conclusion.
you seem to think this is an absurd statement
Yes.
By this measure, Putin, Xi, and Maduro are right wing.
Today you learned…
Putin, Xi and Maduro are autocratic despite what they might say about themselves. They’re absolutely right wing.
Right and left as terms are so undercomplex, they can’t really describe modern politics. Ib this case “authoritarian” vs “Democratic” would make more sense. But then the meme character could get lost…
It’s more complicated than a one-dimensional left- right. That’s why someone came up with the political compass. Still doesn’t tell the whole picture, but it’s a more meaningful oversimplification.
The political compass is worse than an oversimplification, it’s propaganda.
I mean, to me, that comment reads like a lot of mental gymnastics and propaganda.
The world is divided into two clear sides, and whatever the other side does is bad, even if it seems benevolent, because of [way of seeing society rooted in the theory of your side].
Also, there’s no such thing as authoritarian left, they always give people as much personal freedom as possible without jeopardising the movement, and any repression is the minimum amount that’s needed for the greater God!
I don’t know enough about Maduro to judge him, but as for Putin and Xi? Yes, absolutely.
