Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Infosys co-founder Narayana Murthy has once again called for longer working weeks has returned, this time with an emphasis on schedules like the 996-pattern used in parts of China.
Murthy’s comments revive a debate which began in 2024, when he argued that Indian employees should work 70 hours a week.
that’s the sound of player two inserting coin
I do not understand his logic.
Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)
Someone working 70 hours is a mindless drone. This is how you get 13" iPads accidentally sold for 15€ “because the computer said so” (happened in a big box retailer in my country, no human involved in the process objected the price until WEEKS after the sale, when accounting noticed it, and they had to beg customers “pwease return our €1000 iPads and we give you a €25 gift card as a token of gratitude” and everyone just laughed about that)
Especially for developers, for the same price is better to get two that can do tasks with full attention rather than a single one that after 12 hours of job is just mindlessly clicking on “accept” on whatever a LLM is spitting out or half assing solutions because don’t have the right state of mind to think for a proper one.
Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)
What he wants is to pay one person for 70hrs, the same as he’d pay one person for 35 hrs.
And he wants person 2 to be desperate for person 1’s job
AND he will massively underpay that worker for their 35 hours.
Pay workers the bare minimum they need to survive, and have them spend all their waking hours working for you. That’s how you get rich, apparently.
Paying someone 70 hours has the same cost as paying two persons 35 hours, right? (In my country technically no, because higher base taxation)
I mean it isn’t, but the difference is like marginal, but you get added costs like more hardware,more HR needed ( after a certain number of people) It support for those people etc.
But really it’s penny pinching.
That’s the thing. They wont pay you more. Maybe some people would get the extra money, but all new employees would get the same salary for more hours.
I would be willing to be a 70 hour per week mattress tester (work from home, no documentations or results: just testing) if the salary is right.
But other than that 40 at mostSo what I’m hearing from that headline alone is that he’s a psychopath who doesn’t work more than 5 hours a week, and what little “”“work”“” he does consists of getting drunk at lunch and moaning to other CEOs about how lazy his workers are.
Another bag of shit that believes in China’s 9-9-6 BS so he can float on a yacht. Stay in India loser!
can someone kidnap this motherfucker and make him work normal labor job for 80 hours a week, for a year, and see how much he likes this stupid fucking pants on head idea after that
That’s the thing, looking at the company they don’t work “normal labor” jobs. Infosys is into info tech, consulting, and outsourcing services and looking at their acquisition history I get the impression they buy up smaller companies and consolidate their work into their product. Basically they make websites and tools that your company buys for $100k to analyze and optimize workflow, but the site doesn’t work well and they never fix it. After 2 years enough time has passed that the higher ups don’t feel embarrassed retiring the software and buying something else. Also, rather than just coding themselves they code with AI or buy other companies that already wrote the code and put it into their own product.
At the end of the day they aren’t “working,” they are being available. They are the shitty guy who is answering a work call on a Saturday while they are supposed to be watching their kid’s ball game. They are the person who has to step out of the movie theater because they are getting an urgent work call at 10 pm on Friday. They are the person who flies back from their vacation two days early because the boss wants to ask about sales numbers. This is how Executive suite types say they work 16 hour days 7 days a week, they count every hour of the day as work because they are available, not because they were being productive that entire time.
The pampered idiots that suggest these things would literally not survive a year of actual work at 40 hours let alone what they propose
still solves the problem.
Japan has a habit of doing this. The birth rate cratered, productivity is not that great and economic growth is famously low. Most workers do a form of performance theater, an actual “we pretend to work”.
So stupid. Wasting potential personal time for such theatrics.
They should take inspiration from my coworkers, who don’t even bother to pretend.A form of wage theft that’s common in the US (and elsewhere) is that workers are expected to still do work when they have already clocked out (such as closing up the shop).
I have a Japanese friend who told me that it’s not uncommon that if your work colleagues are going to the bar after work, you are expected to go along. If you don’t, it shows a lack of commitment to your job. As it’s not a formal requirement, of course you don’t get paid for this, despite it being functionally mandatory. What’s worse is that you can’t just stick around for one drink and then head home — you are expected to stick around at least as long as your boss, even if he (let’s face it, the boss is probably male) is still drinking long into the night. I consider this to be an especially egregious form of the wage theft I described above.
It sounds so exhausting that I would likely be unable to do anything besides pretend to work, and even that would lead to inevitable burn out. I had heard that the work culture in Japan was bad, but I had no idea how bad until my friend shared some first hand experiences with me.
Well, thank you for the warning. So you are saying people should avoid working for you at any cost.
He should work himself to death alone and leave us with a better world
Iceland made theor 4 day workweek experiment permanent…because it was actually more productive.
They don’t even want all the money, they just want us to suffer
Good luck finding talent, dickhead
What a megalomaniac.
Yeah he’s inspired by a system which country banned it and yet he still wants it?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoshi
Overwork people until they die/kill themselves, great idea, what could go wrong. Really, I want to see homeboy do a month of whatever his lowest employee does with that schedule and THEN say he’s still for it. Bet he’ll be real fuckin’ quiet.
Yeah, go fuck yourself guy
