Italy elected Berlusconi (a corrupted tycoon who had ties with the mafia and bribed his way to the top of the Italian broadcasting world) in 1994.
Y’all just catching up.
Absolutely, over here we’ve recently elected a horrible party as the biggest one, with 25% of the votes. Dark times.
The difference is that in many European countries the head of state is more of a ceremonial position (at least in practice) and the head of the government holds nowhere near the amount of power a US president does. With proportional representation, the biggest party often doesn’t have an absolute majority and needs to form a government together with other parties, or might even end up in the opposition. Together they agree on who’s going to be the head of government (usually the head of the largest party), who will be the ministers and what will be the policy. If it doesn’t work out because of disagreements, the government breaks up and new elections will be held.
My point is: the risk is real, populism is growing, policy is shifting, but the dynamics are different. Having a first past the post system and concentrating so much power into a single political position feels like an accelerator.
Correction: Wilders received the most votes from the people, but could not become PM as his party needed to form coalitions to gain enough seats. Essentially, he did not get elected PM because most others did not want to work together with him.
Was our parliament filled with lunatics vehemently agreeing with him, we’d have Wilders as PM.
People don’t want to leave their homes to begin with, only to face people like you. Make sure you don’t vote for politicians who promote wars or instability if you don’t want anymore refugees. Your right wing politicians are pro-Israel so they will be causing more refugees to move to Europe and they probably don’t realize it.
crazy thing is… that is the exact reason why trump is winning in the States. Someone comes along, crass, rude, claiming to be a layman and the people here ate that up, thinking “now here is a person like us, not like the established politician class” and despite the rhetoric, or due to it, along with suppression and disinformation, he got elected.
Tbf a bunch of racist, misogynist, homophobic, idiots saw a racist, misogynist, homophobic, idiot and went “he just like me fr.” And they are probably right about that.
If you live in Europe and think your democratic system is resistant to these things: it’s not.
Don’t wait until your version of Trump gets elected. Start organizing now.
Italy elected Berlusconi (a corrupted tycoon who had ties with the mafia and bribed his way to the top of the Italian broadcasting world) in 1994. Y’all just catching up.
Absolutely, over here we’ve recently elected a horrible party as the biggest one, with 25% of the votes. Dark times.
The difference is that in many European countries the head of state is more of a ceremonial position (at least in practice) and the head of the government holds nowhere near the amount of power a US president does. With proportional representation, the biggest party often doesn’t have an absolute majority and needs to form a government together with other parties, or might even end up in the opposition. Together they agree on who’s going to be the head of government (usually the head of the largest party), who will be the ministers and what will be the policy. If it doesn’t work out because of disagreements, the government breaks up and new elections will be held.
My point is: the risk is real, populism is growing, policy is shifting, but the dynamics are different. Having a first past the post system and concentrating so much power into a single political position feels like an accelerator.
No worries, he already has been elected last year!
Dick Schoof (yes, English speakers, that really is his legal name) is our Trump?
I’d say Geert Wilders matches that description, and he did not become PM…
Dick Schoof didn’t get elected though, at least not by the people… Wilders was
Correction: Wilders received the most votes from the people, but could not become PM as his party needed to form coalitions to gain enough seats. Essentially, he did not get elected PM because most others did not want to work together with him.
Was our parliament filled with lunatics vehemently agreeing with him, we’d have Wilders as PM.
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And yet the “blame everything on immigrants” strategy seems to work quite well here too.
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I see you’re already on the right track to a fascistic ideology. Way to prove me right.
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You are literally parroting the talking points of fascists, though?
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You literally just blamed “crime” and “terrorism” on immigrants.
My dude, that’s racist as fuck, and the exact same bullshit the fascists in the US say.
Know thyself. The cancer of fascism is fed by fear of people, which is used to acquire and consolidate power, and spread more fear.
The fact that you already associate crime and terrorism with immigrants means that the cancer is already growing within you.
You really don’t think painting immigrants as criminals and terrorists is a common fascist talking point?
Aren’t you claiming that no immigrants result in “low crime and no terrorism”?
Because oh boy: That’s fascist talk.
People don’t want to leave their homes to begin with, only to face people like you. Make sure you don’t vote for politicians who promote wars or instability if you don’t want anymore refugees. Your right wing politicians are pro-Israel so they will be causing more refugees to move to Europe and they probably don’t realize it.
crazy thing is… that is the exact reason why trump is winning in the States. Someone comes along, crass, rude, claiming to be a layman and the people here ate that up, thinking “now here is a person like us, not like the established politician class” and despite the rhetoric, or due to it, along with suppression and disinformation, he got elected.
Tbf a bunch of racist, misogynist, homophobic, idiots saw a racist, misogynist, homophobic, idiot and went “he just like me fr.” And they are probably right about that.
Whoever thinks Trump is ‘people like us’ can drown in piss
How can someone think a spoiled rich boy is one of the working class?
Eroding education seems to work for those shitheads…
Just wait a bit. It’ll crack sooner or later.