Well, maybe the fact you can’t see how other people have different lives and live under different systems, makes it hard for you to see other perspectives.
I’m perfectly willing to see other perspectives when they’re not bullshit. It just happens that this particular perspective is bullshit. In the words of many a rightwinger, facts don’t care about your feelings. Or mine, or anybody’s. If you want more proof, Democrats, which tend to be city dwellers and therefore more likely to interact with immigrants, are overwhelmingly pro-immigration.
Yes, people who are around immigrants and find a social benefit tend to promote immigration, while those who are around immigrants and see a social detriment will be against immigration.
Because you (I suspect intentionally) misread my reply. The people most likely to be around immigrants in the first place overwhelming support immigration.
people who are around immigrants and find a social benefit tend to promote immigration,
There’s a lot of these
while those who are around immigrants and see a social detriment will be against immigration.
Sure, I didn’t say that those people don’t exist, I said that their perspective is bullshit. Again, if immigration was causing real societal harm, the people with more proximity to immigrants would be more affected and their views would change accordingly. Ergo, no such phenomenon exists and the people getting their panties in a bunch over immigration are bigots or buying bigoted rhetoric, plain and simple. There’s no other valid perspective to take into account here; either a problem exists or it doesn’t and in this case it quite clearly doesn’t.
Immigration isn’t a benefit by default. It can also be a problem for one person and not for another. I think the main issue though, is people in liberal states thinking that conservative ones operate the same way, and vice versa.
Immigration causing harm is also different than immigrants causing harm.
Yeah that’s the thing: It fucking is. No economy says no to more labor, especially not an economy that can’t sustain itself with native labor gestures at declining US birth rates. Japan and South Korea are what low/no immigration does and it’s not pretty.
I think the main issue though, is people in liberal states thinking that conservative ones operate the same way, and vice versa.
That’s a nice hypothesis, mind backing it up with literally anything?
Well, maybe the fact you can’t see how other people have different lives and live under different systems, makes it hard for you to see other perspectives.
I’m perfectly willing to see other perspectives when they’re not bullshit. It just happens that this particular perspective is bullshit. In the words of many a rightwinger, facts don’t care about your feelings. Or mine, or anybody’s. If you want more proof, Democrats, which tend to be city dwellers and therefore more likely to interact with immigrants, are overwhelmingly pro-immigration.
Yes, people who are around immigrants and find a social benefit tend to promote immigration, while those who are around immigrants and see a social detriment will be against immigration.
Not sure what point you are making though.
Because you (I suspect intentionally) misread my reply. The people most likely to be around immigrants in the first place overwhelming support immigration.
There’s a lot of these
And not many of these.
No there’s not many, but it does exist and when a country is as big as America, even minority groups are in the millions.
Sure, I didn’t say that those people don’t exist, I said that their perspective is bullshit. Again, if immigration was causing real societal harm, the people with more proximity to immigrants would be more affected and their views would change accordingly. Ergo, no such phenomenon exists and the people getting their panties in a bunch over immigration are bigots or buying bigoted rhetoric, plain and simple. There’s no other valid perspective to take into account here; either a problem exists or it doesn’t and in this case it quite clearly doesn’t.
Immigration isn’t a benefit by default. It can also be a problem for one person and not for another. I think the main issue though, is people in liberal states thinking that conservative ones operate the same way, and vice versa.
Immigration causing harm is also different than immigrants causing harm.
Yeah that’s the thing: It fucking is. No economy says no to more labor, especially not an economy that can’t sustain itself with native labor gestures at declining US birth rates. Japan and South Korea are what low/no immigration does and it’s not pretty.
That’s a nice hypothesis, mind backing it up with literally anything?