There are so many things you can’t prove and yet still act upon, this is a stupid conversation. For literally every other animal out there, it’s proven that pain is only felt once it reaches the brain. Why would you somehow assume muscles now have a mini brain to process it locally.
How can you not? It’s the case for every other animal out there (knock them unconscious and they no longer feel pain). How would one even have what it takes to feel anything without a brain? Reacting to a stimuli and understanding it is not the same.
Besides, by this same logic of “this can’t be proven”, it also can’t be proven plants don’t feel pain, since they also have the equivalent of nerves and response to stimuli.
I don’t get it. Pain is processed in the brain, and they don’t have one. Are you implying the muscle itself somehow feels pain? But what processes it?
I’m not saying they can suffer. I’m saying you can’t prove they are incapable.
There are so many things you can’t prove and yet still act upon, this is a stupid conversation. For literally every other animal out there, it’s proven that pain is only felt once it reaches the brain. Why would you somehow assume muscles now have a mini brain to process it locally.
I haven’t assumed any such thing.
Since a brain is required to process pain, how else do you suppose they would feel it?
I don’t know how you can begin to try to prove this
How can you not? It’s the case for every other animal out there (knock them unconscious and they no longer feel pain). How would one even have what it takes to feel anything without a brain? Reacting to a stimuli and understanding it is not the same.
Besides, by this same logic of “this can’t be proven”, it also can’t be proven plants don’t feel pain, since they also have the equivalent of nerves and response to stimuli.
it seems like you’re starting to understand that the negative claim “muscles can’t experience suffering” is unprovable
I’ll stop right there, feels like I’m talking to AI.