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    6 hours ago

    So … You’re saying I could grow my own breast if I get the right ormone (im)balance? Neat. There should be a guide for how to balance these …

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      Well, if you’re fat (like I was), adipose tissue aromatizes more testosterone to estrogen and you get gynocomastia (breast tissue growth). Also, because your body uses estrogen receptors to regulate testosterone levels, higher estrogen levels causes LH and FSH levels to drop, so you produce less testosterone.

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        I am very fat. My moobs are absolutely my least favorite part of that (visually anyway). A decade or so ago, I read on Reddit that one can get fluid drained to reduce the size of man boobs, regardless of physical fitness.

        I want to get this done but feel stupid asking to be put under for a purely vanity matter.

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          I’ve lost about 75lbs+ of fat, and have a small amount of gynocomastia. After having kept the weight off for over 3 years most of my loose skin has shrunk back, but I still have a bit. It’s like wearing a skin suit a size too big. My current efforts are focused on adding muscle to fill out the saggy skin. I think I’ll be able to build my pecs enough to use the gynocomastia to just make it look like I have bigger pecs. That’s the hope anyway.

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      The safest way is probably to just take estrogen, fin and/or spiro. The much less safe way is to abuse anabolic steriods

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    Calling this hypocrisy feels weird. Are the men getting these treatments transphobic? Aren’t they getting called fat f-slurs and told to hit the gym?

    Top surgery for adult trans men isn’t illegal in any US state, and insurance generally doesn’t cover it for anyone, including cis men. These are adults paying out-of-pocket.

    It feels weird to me to attach anger at transphobes to people who are just living their best lives and have experienced some of the same bigotry.

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    Breast reductions are extremely popular among cis men

    I doubt it. They never actually talk numbers, just that it’s “the most common cosmetic surgery among cis men,” which doesn’t actually say much. Would you ever say “shooting yourself in the head is extremely popular”? After all, it’s the most common form of suicide.

    Of course, I still agree with the conclusion, regardless - breast reduction surgery by anyone anti-trans is ridiculously hypocritical. Shit, so is bald men using Rogaine or any man using steroids… I’d love to see someone try to argue that those aren’t gender-affirming care 😂🤣

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      You make a good point, so I wanted to check the numbers

      In 2019, 24,123 male patients underwent the procedure in the United States, accounting for a 19% increase since 2000

      Just pulled from wikipedia.

      I then found a more detailed listing from “American Society for Plastic Surgeons” that says 2024 had about 28.5k (~26.5k from gyno surgery performed exclusively on males, and another 2k from “breast reduction”, the latter of which was also performed on 75k females)

      Interestingly, an additional 91 males had breast implants removed, while over 1800 received them. I believe this figure represents pectoral implants (fake chest muscles) and is not related to top surgery for trans women.

      Some other notable cosmetic surgeries for males in 2024: Liposuction (21k), rhinoplasty (7k), facelift (6k), tummy tuck (4k), cheek implants (2.3k) and chin augmentation (1.2k). 79 males received butt implants!

      All in, 99k males in the US received cosmetic surgery in 2024, along with 1.5 million females