• minorkeys@lemmy.world
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    What makes anyone believe she’s capable of surviving eviction? Oh right, they don’t care if she dies.

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      all corporations should be split into different smaller companies which would be given to the workers who would collectivize them. seriously!

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      Corporations are people. Its an excuse to be a dick.

      A person made the call to evict her, not a corporation.

      A person then told her, “nothing he could do, it’s out of my hands.”

      Then another person cuffed her and dragged her out. “Nothing he could do, he was just upholding the law.”

      “Wir haben das nicht gewust.”

      “Befehl ist befehl.”

      That didn’t hold up in Nürnberg and it still doesn’t.

      Don’t do evil shit. Resign. Or be evil and fucking own it. “Yes. I did that and I’m proud of it. I got my bonus, fuck that old tart.”

      Do not dare to hide behind “the corporation” or “the law”.

      You.

      You did that.

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        And this is why corporations can continue doing the thing they do because they can absolve responsibility through individuals.

        Quit being a corporate shill, there’s no way anyone is this dense unless they’re doing it on purpose.

        It’s a nice viewpoint but it doesn’t actually do anything to affect the reality of this, which is that corporations corrupt and change people to do their bidding, and distribute responsibility such that it’s often not just any one person who is doing this.

        For example, a corporation getting you evicted from your housing for dubious reasons. There are many many people involved in that chain, most of which are not knowingly doing direct harm, including your own government who will enforce that eviction. You have to be beyond blind to not realize this.

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    I dont understand why you handcuff people who clearly are not a danger to anyone.

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    Kinda sounds like a win-win for her when you think about it. The state isn’t gonna stick her in high security prison, more like minimum security, so it’s basically just a retirement home but this time she doesn’t have to pay rent, and under the 8th amendment, prisons in the US are required to provide medical care to inmates (it’s not always the best care, but they do get it), which isn’t actually the case with poorly funded or greedy retirement homes.

    There comes a point when you’re old enough that going to prison is actually a better alternative to retirement homes, because a retirement home will actually take your assets so you have no wealth to pass down to your kids, but a prison doesn’t do that. if you go into prison as an elderly person, your house is still yours, your bank accounts are still yours, you just can’t access them while you’re in prison.

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    Expect a lot more of this with the BBB bill cutting 800billion from medicade. Most seniors 62% in these homes are paid for by Medicaid after all of their assets have been liquidated. These places cost 10k a month or more.

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    The most disturbing part of this is, she made it to 93, and wasn’t able to pay rent. Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?

    Like, she’s not even just retired, she’s elderly. The “Golden years” of wearing a diaper and needing a walker, kind of elderly.

    Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home, the fact that it got to the point where she was hauled off to jail in an orange jumpsuit and cuffs should not have happened. Someone should have stopped and said, “are we really going to try to send a 93 year old to jail?” And that should have been where it stopped. Because that’s not something you do to a 93 year old for missing a few rent payments.

    America is cracked man. Should not have gotten there. What the actual fuck.

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      Yup.

      American here.

      As far as I can tell we are totally fucked. As in, if I was smart, I’d be finding a way to get citizenship elsewhere before I get too old.

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      Man, I only retired 3 years ago, for medical reasons, and with only just enough money. In that 3 years, essentially everything has doubled in cost. In another 3 years it will probably double again. So, it’s pretty easy to see me being in a similar situation eventually, although at least I do own my home. Many retired people on fixed incomes are feeling the squeeze…

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        I’m still working and things are getting more expensive faster than I’m getting raises. I don’t own a home and doubt I ever will be able to afford it so my only retirement option is a shotgun.

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      Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home

      They had her shit on the curb by the time the squad car rolled off.

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      The people living in America exist solely to serve the needs and wants of the oligarchy. If you’re not working to make them more entrenched, you are useless and they would really prefer you just die.

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      Social Security was supposed to float them after the time they could make a living. That’s drying up faster than water in a desert Nestle is siphoning from.

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      Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?

      No. Everytime there is, conservatives cry antichrist and pull Usain Bolt shit trying to get it repealed.

      They’re about as close as you get to being the literal Sith… outside of North Korea, I guess.

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    David Graber suggests in Debt: The First 5000 Years, that the way you get someone to do something truely awful to another human is to hang a debt over their head so they feel that someone else is making them do it.

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    I believe her story is a bit more nuanced. She took the money she received and spent it on her self and never gave it to the facility. She actively did this because she thought she would be dead soon.

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      Even so, this shouldn’t happen. Several persons did some really evil shit here.

      I did a dick move because she was also behaving like a dick.

      Really? That excuse didn’t work in Kindergarden and sure as shit doesn’t hold up in the grown up world.

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        MAGAs ascribe to the Two Wrongs Make A Right philosophy, but only when the second wrong is by a MAGA. EVERYTHING is wrong if it’s a Democrat.

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      And doesn’t that just expose the underlying immorality even more? The elderly are told to spend down extra money. It’s common sense. You can’t take it with you. Plan as best you can, right?

      Any housing provider or retirement center that can’t reasonably deal with the fact that some of their oldest residents might unexpectedly run out of cash, well, I have zero respect for them. Don’t open that kind of business if you aren’t ready for this kind of entirely predictable scenario. It’s just wrong.

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      So a 93 yo starts mis-spending her rent money, endangering her housing, and the reaction isn’t to start monitoring her spending, and other behaviors that might be changing as she ages, and to check her out for dementia, it’s to evict her, and toss her in jail.

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        I’m not defending them. But I’m just informing. She received HUD payments for her rent but used them for fun. To the tune of like 60,000$. She committed fraud with the government assistance she received. It wasn’t money in her bank account.

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    I know this is a socialist sublemmy, so “preaching to the choir”, but seriously let’s please abolish rent. I think folks are ready. Rent is basically what created capitalism, right?

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    You can’t be 'the richest country in the world" if 40% of your citizens are in poverty. The US “gov” is corrupt and greedy. This place truly is a shithole…

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        America has been doing mass graves frequently and for a long time.

        Besides the genocide of indigenous people, there was the mishandling of COVID and the off-shored mass graves at the a Salvadorian mega-prison that Trump pays so many millions of dollars to use.