• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
        19·
        2 天前

        Many years ago I had to explain to a coworker how progressive taxation works. He was like “that’s a great idea! We should do that! It’s stupid that now your pay goes up but you take home less because you get taxed more”

        I had to tell him, yes it is a good idea. It’s how it works now. You don’t get more pay and suddenly your whole income is taxed more.

        He’d had no idea

        • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          9·
          2 天前

          I’ve literally heard coworkers mention the whole “I actually don’t want a raise because my taxes would go up and I’d make less” bullshit before. I do what I can to redirect them when I hear it, but some people are extremely dug into their worldview and don’t want to be helped. Like acknowledging a progressive tax rate would require acknowledging that their entire concept of income and taxation is built on a lie.

        • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          1 天前

          I had an outright argument with one of my own coworkers about this very subject less than six months ago. Even with all of the insane bullshit going on outside today people still just refuse to look up and read any sort of information for themselves.

  • walden@wetshav.ingEnglish
    7·
    1 天前

    This is a meme community, so it’s time to get serious!

    This happened around 6 or 7 years ago. The company in question only has two work groups that are unionized – Pilots and Dispatchers. Mechanics, Flight Attendants, Ground Service, etc. are not unionized.

    Flight Attendants have attempted to unionize many times, but the vote always fails.

    The poster included in this post was for Ramp workers – the people who load baggage, marshal the planes into the gate, fill the potable water, etc. That vote ultimately failed, but these posters were only a small reason why. In my opinion, the biggest reason that other work groups don’t want to unionize (they absolutely can, nothing is stopping them) is profit sharing.

    Years ago the pilot union negotiated an extremely excellent profit sharing agreement, and it was negotiated for pilots only. Depending on the amount of profit for the year, employees can expect 10%-%20 of their yearly income paid in a lump sum. The company in question is typically very profitable (I can already see the “profit should be illegal” type of comments coming, but please spare me. I’m just trying to explain how it works).

    Over time, other work groups started to catch wind of how much profit sharing pilots were getting. Naturally this sparked talk of unionizing in other work groups, so in order to calm things down the company extended the same profit sharing to all workers, not just the pilots.

    This sort of reversed the desire to unionize for a lot of people (I disagree with them, but this is their thinking)… Now if the ramp personnel do unionize, they’d have to negotiate their own profit sharing as they would be excluded from the company wide payout. That’s not to say they couldn’t negotiate to keep the profit sharing, but the fear is real and people don’t want to lose the big fat checks that come almost every year.

    In summary, the workers aren’t unionized but the company pays a lot of money to them to keep it that way. Would they be better off long term if they unionized? Yes, of course. But this poster, as ridiculous as it is, is not the only reason that work groups aren’t voting in unions.

    Here’s a link to the AFA page talking about it a little bit https://deltaafa.org/news/profit-sharing-2025

    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 天前

      Its crazy to me how short term so many people think.

      I mean basic logic dictates that the companies clearly know the union is the better option for you and worse option for them when they’re willing to give up concessions, and it should be similarly obvious that inherently, the concessions will never be equivalent to what you are losing in increased wages and protections from if you had made a union.

      • walden@wetshav.ingEnglish
        6·
        1 天前

        There’s also no accountability for companies and it has been like that for way too long. Look at Starbucks… some stores unionized so they just closed the stores and fired everyone. Completely illegal, but no consequences for the company. They succeeded in scaring the rest of the baristas, though, so mission accomplished.

        • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 天前

          We are so far from this when people choose to vote in a literal pedo fascist over boring neoliberal.

          There isn’t a chance in hell you get a pro workers president any time soon when the general population can’t tell the difference above, and somehow think the only rational choice is a “”““far left””“” socialist such as famously very socialist former DA Harris.

  • MissJinx@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 天前

    In my country uniona are not even a question. Qlso qe just had a meeting about annual salary adjustments and added benefits. And yes, it does cost me about 700 but we gain a lot lot more

  • Broadfern@lemmy.worldEnglish
    78·
    2 天前

    That’s like one month of US health insurance next year. Way more than worth it over being at the whims of some fuckhead corporation

  • Sharlot@lemmy.world
    32·
    1 天前

    Classic misdirection: compare dues to a toy instead of the extra pay, healthcare, and protections.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      1 天前

      This is why corporate America wants our population uneducated and tuned out and hooked on AI slop and distractions.

  • hateisreality@lemmy.world
    38·
    1 天前

    Haha my Union Dues… 240/yr.

    Pay in the five years before the union…no increase. 20 years of union, pay up 100%.

  • Otakulad@lemmy.world
    37·
    1 天前

    Remember, if your company is telling you how great something is, it is great for them, not you.

    • Overconfidentiality@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      10·
      1 天前

      Right, if you ever see an poster or video anywhere, consider that the message was something someone felt was worth spending money on. And if it was a business, why would a business spend money unless it could somehow benefit its bottom line?

  • saarth@lemmy.world
    4·
    1 天前

    With all the layoffs right now, it’s a great opportunity for unions to make people aware about them and how they can be beneficial.

    I wish unions were more active on LinkedIn, so that we could like and share their posts. Recent layoffs at Omnicom/IPG have led to people discussing unions in the advertising subreddit…

  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
    120·
    2 天前

    Well, you might get higher wages. Or the airline might either go under, or just fire everyone in the union thanks to at will employment.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      20·
      2 天前

      If they could do that they wouldn’t try to get people to avoid unionizing. They still need people to work for them, regulations or no regulations.

  • FosterMolasses@leminal.spaceEnglish
    35·
    2 天前

    Scumbags. What the hell is this 'murkin propaganda? It’s like the whole country is unironically trying to become the Sith.

  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
    19·
    2 天前

    When I worked at Best buy over 10 years ago they had the exact same propaganda. You know instead of union dues you could buy an Xbox! (From us no less!)

    …okay I added that last bit but it was implied