DISCLAIMER:This joke is homophobic. “Trump being embarrassed for people thinking he had a gay relationship makes him homophobic. Affirming that embarrassment by making it the butt of the joke makes the joke homophobic”
this article explains it well: https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/5082/the-dangerous-stereotype-of-the-self-hating-homophobe
why is someone from dbzer0 posting memes that use queer folk as a punch line? that’s a little uncouth, don’t you think? I feel like this violates that instance’s rules and you should delete it and reflect on yourself for a bit.
It would be equally funny
well, making fun of him sleeping with hillary isn’t funny either, so if they’re equally funny then I’m glad you agree that this post isn’t funny.
Oh I get it. You don’t think humor exists at all. Got it.
Why? Becasue dbzer0 is a bottom-shelf instance with “anything goes” attitude. They’re aggressively pro-AI and lax on moderation. They’re also a shelter for tankies masquerading as lefties.
and your instance harbors and protects zionists and moderators like Jordan Lund who have said on multiple occasions that they don’t support black activists because they “inconvenience” him. I’ll take supporting AI over genocide and racism apologia any day.
Sorry, I don’t care what you’d take.
You asked a question, I answered.yeah, I figured a shitstain homophobe like you wouldn’t care about genocide or racism.
yeah, I figured a shitstain like you wouldn’t care.
I don’t think you did…
Wtf, did they call you a shitstain and then edit their comment to soften it without noting that?? That’s so slimy…
oh fuck off.
Love that ratio bud! By the way, you REALLY need new material. You’ve been crying about that shit for ages now.
What is this, Reddit? I don’t give a shit about karma on a platform it doesn’t matter on.
It’s not about karma bud, it’s about you being our ratio’d on a platform that’s known to support your dumb shit.
Meanwhile they also protect shitheel trolls like Universal Monk by banning anyone that calls out his multiple sock puppet accounts.
Apparently it’s “bad jacketing” to direct people to factual information, and ask others to prove shit that never happened.
The whole point of meme is hypocrsy, I posted it with a pun. Can u explain how is this homophobic?
This is love
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There’s a lot of heated statements in here but I don’t see the homophobia in this post unless there’s more context. In this isolated post, it seems like they’re just extending the Epstein release about “Bubba”.
I won’t take away from anyone who finds it offensive though. You’re completely right to feel that way.
Also, it’s not homophobic to say that homophobes being gay on their private lives, especially if they work to pass policy that makes it worse for gay people, are bad people. It isn’t about them being gay. It’s about them enjoying a thing while trying to punish others for enjoying that same thing.
The homophobia is that the “joke” here is “hahah trump is GAY with BILL CLINTON!”
Gayness isnt a bad thing. Using it to be insulting to trump means in that instance its perceived as a bad thing. Thats the homophobia.
Trump is an awful person who has done awful things. “Haha gaaay” isnt useful or funny when the man is a serial rapist, and now murderer
I can only speak for myself in detecting homophobia and I’m not always the best judge. I don’t want to deny your experience either, I’ll just say what I’m seeing:
There were leaks earlier that someone texted about Trump gave a blowjob or something to someone called Bubba. Then people speculated it was either Bill Clinton or even the nickname of a horse (I think people were just reaching for extremes in the memes).
Assuming the leak was real and person that sent the message was real and that Bubba was the nickname for Bill Clinton. I think people are just putting out fakes of the evidence of that?
I don’t see anyone saying it’s not “manly” to be gay or that being gay is undesirable?
Like I said, if I twist myself a bit a little too I think I can see the “haha gay people” angle. I just don’t think I see it, maybe it’s because I would like to think homophobia is so played out I would think they’d make a better joke or that secretly gay politicians is so common now.
That doesn’t mean you’re wrong though for sure, just because I can’t see it doesn’t mean the author’s intent isn’t there.
The implication is that it would be embarrassing for him to have had a gay relationship.
Trump not wanting people to think that he’s gay is the other half of the homophobia, and by making that the butt of the joke, we’ve affirmed it.
I think I can see where you’re coming from in that way.
I’m not gay so I’m not as sensitive to these jokes. I am Asian, however, and I dislike “Uncle Roger” for what I think is similar to this. The butt of the joke is that Asian people speak funny. So I think it’s similar to what you’re saying. The butt of the joke is that it’s embarrassing to have a gay relationship.
Gayness isnt a bad thing. Using it to be insulting to trump
The insult is the hypocrisy, not the gayness.
agreed, nothing in this screams homophobia, its seems whoever these accounts are trying to distract/astroturf from epstein files.
Trump being embarrassed for people thinking he had a gay relationship makes him homophobic
Affirming that embarrassment by making it the butt of the joke makes the joke homophobic
Hope that helps.
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I see it now, thanks for explaining!
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Oh, there are rules what can be funny and what can’t…
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there are certainly rules on the OPs home instance that specifically forbid homophobia in anyone who associates with us.
You are all over this post. You need to relax. The people here are NOT the people who are doing the bad things out there. Life is easy if you let it be.
anybody with internalized homophobia like this are the same people who will sit back and let Trump take their neighbors. so yeah, they are the ones doing bad things out there.
No, they aren’t.
Well said.
An “anarchist” giving it all to try and police everyone in the thread is hilarious.
Anarchism is about mutual aid and solidarity with all people. With no exceptions. Homophobia is antithetical to that, and to be an anarchist you must be someone who resists and makes no room for it in society.
People think anarchism means “everyone gets to do whatever they want”, but any behavior that treats another human as less valuable must be stomped out in order to adhere to anarchist principles.
You are an example of what never reading does to a motherfucker.
Pretty sure there were quite a few exceptions to our unwavering solidarity and mutual aid, as McKinley, a bunch of factory owners, Spanish putchists, Ukraininan whites and reds, Chinese monarchy loyalists might have noticed before their deaths. Or how exactly do you expect to “stomp out” “any behavior that treats another human as less valuable”? Also lovely that you’d do it “in order to adhere to anarchist principle”, follow us or die, am I right comrade?
follow us or die
Yes, it is absolutely a moral imperative to destroy homophobia, transphobia, and racism wherever it is found. The only kind of person that’s a “gotcha” for is a liberal. I am absolutely unashamed of saying bigots should die. Was there any other questions you had?
You know I stopped reading your replies, right? You need some help, and venting on a public forum isn’t it.
You not reading them ain’t saving you any time if you’re still responding to them.
Besides, I didn’t post that for a bigot. I posted it for the people who aren’t right-wing losers.
To be fair anarchy is a political philosophy advocating for a society without rulers, governments, or hierarchical authority, replacing them with voluntary cooperation, free associations, and self-governance based on equality and liberty.
Yes, that’s the irony. Thanks.
What?
That they don’t take orders from someone in authority but they think it’s okay to tell your equals what to do?
I’m a lesbian. I do not take offense to this image. It’s ironic because Trump is so homophobic, and it’s also a play on words regarding the legislation referred to as the “Big beautiful bill.” You’re either a bot, a Trump bootlicker, or you have a touch of the 'tism if you can’t understand irony or puns.
Yes, it’s AI. We all know it’s AI. That doesn’t make it less funny.
This thread has given me someone else and their instance to block. Thanks!
Funny, but AI images are lame.
How do you know/why do you think AI was involved?
why is using queer folk as a punch line funny? can you explain that in greater detail?
they are hostile to queer people is what makes it funny and you know that, troll
if an image surfaced if Mangione and a boyfriend no one would bat an eye.
the issue is when homophobes are secretly gay.
they are doing so much damage to a community they hate themselves for being in.
Because, to me (humor is subjective), a person that is so hateful towards LGBTQ people that has a secret life partaking in the same thing would be funny. This image can only hurt you if you let it.
Because, to me (humor is subjective), a person that is so hateful towards LGBTQ people that has a secret life partaking in the same thing would be funny. Are you ok?
humor is subjective, homophobia isn’t.
Your opinion is gay
I feel like a suburban mom laughing when her teenager has just cursed.
So in your opinion, the only interpretation as to why this is funny is because gay man bad?
Not the OVERWHELMING, BLINDING, BURNING hypocrisy of the situation? That doesn’t factor into it?
If that’s the only explanation you can come up with, maybe you have some homophobia yourself.
This an an AI image. It isn’t real. There’s no hypocrisy in it. It was created solely because somebody thought it would be funny if Trump was gay.
And if you think it’s real, then I ask you, why is there only one body under the blankets?
The purpose of the image is the hypocrisy.
We understand it’s AI. It was created to appear hypocritical. It would be funny if Trump were gay. Not because gay funny but because Trump being gay would be ironic. How do you not see this…?
As a queer person who started their antifa activity over twenty years ago defending LGBTQ marches baseball bat in hand I find this post fucken hillarious.
This dosnt even register at such levels for me but around my parts a lot of gay humour is based around use and abuse of slur terms, also to take them back, as was done with “gay” or “queer”. Hardly anyone but closeted selfhating guys and the instagram raised youth would have a problem with implying a right wing politician is gay. Preferably in their “gayest” voice to a bunch of terriefied normies. It also might be true for a key figure of our national politics, but that’s another story.
Because most of the staunchest homophobes are gay man with very serious problems with it, followed by weak minded guys trying to be more manly it makes sense to hit that. Addressing and poking fun at that from our, known to be overly “correct” side puts them out of balance, causes rifts, suspicion and rises pressure in their own groups leading to more conflicts and divisions, therby limiting their reach. In my country we had stirred such gossip on purpouse and involuntarily outed some of far right leaders, so now the suspicion persists in their ranks. Their weapon was turned against them.
Even if you have more issues with such aproach then people who’d been oppressed most their life: it is in fact a war comrade, and you better get around to what that actually means. No one gets out of one both morally impeccable and alive.
I know this is a meme space, but since there are quite a few comments about whether this is homophobic or not, I’ll leave this article here. Judge for yourself.
https://newhumanist.org.uk/articles/5082/the-dangerous-stereotype-of-the-self-hating-homophobe
Thanks for the link, It was a good read!
No problem
This is really great, thank you for sharing!
Making fun of homophobic people for being homophobic is not itself homophobic
People need to lighten the fuck up
You mean gay people should lighten up about being made the butt of a joke about trump? Fuck right off.
With the amount of lies spewed out of dumps piehole, this is just straight up real in comparison.
Holy shit this comment section is either all bots or there’s a whole section of lemmy that goes out of its way to deliberately ignore the comedic irony of this.
I hate it because it’s ai. You hate it because it’s “homophobic??”
As if portraying someone who hates lgbtq people as being lgbtq is anything more than making fun of them for hating lgbtq people.
If you’re going to speak directly at them then tag them in your comment, coward.
a little of both, remember some of the “reddit Reject/bans” are also the right wing, anti-lgbt trolls too that got shadowbanned.
Not an army just one weird dude
wait this is AI?
You think Trump would cuddle and hold hands with anyone?? 😀
I don’t know, I’m not American, news here disort Trump to make he look good (Brazil btw), my dad is a non-American MAGA now man
I’m so sorry. One of my neighbours is non-American MAGA as well, and without taking a hammer to my frontal lobe, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to understand how they see the world. They literally believe sci-fi fantasy shit about giants’ bones and “med beds” and cloning politicians.
…Isn’t it the same thing?
It’s obviously AI, so it pokes fun at Trump’s shameless embrace of AI misinformation in the same way it pokes at his homophobia. It’s crude, like he is; that’s the point.
Been seeing this line lately. I do think it’s a Russian internet research agency approved line for sure. I called Putin and Trump gay for each other and a bunch of hexbear accounts called it homophobic in unison.
so close to being self aware.
some comments were too well coordinated to be individual users, it did sound like troll farm material.
The fediverse was bound to attract the attention to troll factories. That’s why its devs need to consider making it more resilient, but unfortunately I get more of an impression they just want a second reddit.
It ended up being a lonely kid on the spectrum who lives at home, can’t drive and thinks he has a “real job” walking dogs for his book club. Sad and funny.
He refused therapy. Dbzero admins too. I’m almost as disappointed as their parents.
