Cowbee said something right for once.
Except they don’t understand that they are the chuds who have created their own safe spaces.
You have been banned from the DPRK. Glorious leader has spoken.
Cowbee loves to act like he’s not in an echo chamber. All the tankies like him are just currently unemployed dictators. They’re like the people who simp for billionaires…just they do it hoping that they’ll be in charge when “communism” comes around.
a comment on reddit on a sub recently about voters, and they said tankies(i assume the leftist) dont come out in vote in elections, they just whine and bitch behind the screens, and give excuses. for terrible as they are , conservatives at least come in droves to vote all the time. ,most of the time.
thats why tankies and their sort will always fail.
they’re just too cowardly to actually do anything.
Oh lord. And I thought the right wing chuds were kings of projection. These people genuinely live in an alternate reality. It’s equal parts fascinating, sad, and disturbing.
That’s their secret. They’re also right-wingers.
Well, they’re conservatives. Their chosen ingroup just happens to be leftists. Same behavior, different markings.
By contrast there are right-wingers who aren’t tribalists blindly performing loyalty. You can spot them as they get booted from their party for insisting on yesterday’s bullshit over today’s bullshit. They’re the schmucks who actually bought their side’s propaganda, never realizing it was only a disposable cudgel.
So far left, they’re right. Bizzaro Centrists.
Strong evidence for the horseshoe theory.
To be fair, this is largely why I discredit the left-right paradigm of politics. The graph adding authoritarian vs libertarian helps a bit, but it’s just too complex of a set of ideals to break into simple binaries.
The .ml crew are genuinely leftists. They believe in the value of socialized systems and collective empowerment as opposed to individual merit. The problem is that they’re also authoritarian nutjobs who actively cover up and/or support the wholesale murder of out groups.
Yes, there’s a decent argument that this isn’t true leftism, or a true belief in collective empowerment and the like, but that’s kind my point. Politics are too complicated for simplistic binaries. They carry a number of beliefs that are decidedly left, while simultaneously sharing far more beliefs than they’re willing to admit with the batshit insane nationalists that they claim to detest. They defend authoritarianism at every turn, while simultaneously speaking down to those they perceive as fascist. And not all of it - emphasis on “all”, as a good portion of it is - is as hypocritical as we’d like to believe. Our simplified political binaries just do a bad job of discussing complex ideologies.
I completely agree. Here in Brazil there’s a great example of how badly these binaries fail with Getúlio Vargas.
He got into power with the help of the fascists against the communists. But he was an ultranationalist and those were foreign ideologies, so he persecuted both.
He instituted many workers’ rights and was called big father of the poor, but was also a cruel dictator who committed genocide against the natives, and also persecuted white Europeans who did not had Brazilian culture.
After being deposed he got reelected and committed suicide in a way that saved Brazilian democracy from a military coup.
Fascinating. I’m embarrassingly uneducated on South American politics, though I’ve taught a few EAL learners from there. I appreciate the quick history lesson, genuinely.
I think it’s more that a genuinely leftist movement in Russia was captured and subjugated by authoritarians and they spent 70 years muddying the waters about what leftism means with their powerful propaganda.
tankies stay seething
also apparently like one post every few days is considered popular by tankie standards. geez dude
I’d prefer it if it were possible to kick these chuds off the fediverse entirely.
🙃
you can block the tankie triad, but the individual accounts maybe harder i just block everytime i see them.
“By nature of the Fediverse, chuds will make their own space”
They’re so close to self-awareness
No chance. They would self harm if they ever achieved it.
self-awarewolves
Cowbee wasn’t saying that it’s bad to make your own space, per se; he was saying that communities of like-minded people are naturally going to develop on the Fediverse because of its decentralized nature. No Hexbear would deny that we created the site for ourselves.
Pretty sure “chud” is a derogatory term here, though.
It is. He/we don’t support your politics, but we support your right to congregate and use the software.
Lol if you’re not defending communist dictators, you’re fascist?
They truly are missing a few screws.
Not defending communist dictators is unequal to drinking the cool aid in a nazi bar. You could do one without the other. You don‘t, tho.
What if both those things are bad though? Have you ever had this rational thought?
Yes, thanks, that’s why the comment exists. You are drinking the cool aid in a nazi bar. There’s no need to engage in this toxic community, just because you don’t like people that you (perceive) as defending communist dictators.
I just said both are bad, why not go back to that community instead of bitching about our chuckling?
Because chuckling with nazis is something I condemn in general, maybe you or others like to be aware of what’s happening, if you engage in this community. You chuckle with rightwingers, nazis, genocide deniers, fascists and naive people that don’t realise that. Which one are you?
You keep calling people nazis like that’s your one “gotcha”, everything I hate is Nazi. You people crack me up, but commenting here is kinda breaking the 4th wall. It’s kinda weird.
I didn’t call anyone specific that (lately). But you seem fine with the kind of company you enjoy. I’m just saying stay away, if you don’t enjoy this kind of company. You enjoy chuckling with nazis, that’s regrettable, but your choice.
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commenting specifically so tankies label me “fashy” while they actively defend dictatorships.
Cowbee being predictable as ever
oh no, im not a tankie, i just post in hexbear and call myself a tankie
funny thing is that I’m referring to both of them lol
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No surprise tankie trolls would like drama.
tankies and conservatives share things in common.
tankies and regressives do indeed share things in common.
“Cryptofash”, “fashy” 🤔
Feels like bastardizations of already bastardized words, and I wonder if they’re using it to try to sound impactful while not saying much.
One of the most important tasks in any propaganda framework is defining the words appropriately.
In particular, the word for “enemy” needs to be carefully chosen.
there are only two ideologies.
mine and fascists
thats the same thing conservative used. they used things like shitlibs as tankies, or libtards as conservative exact same messaging.
Ah yes, of course the people who would have been allies with the Nazis up until the moment Hitler ate their face, the people who looked at Project 2025 and said “still better than Kamala though”, the people supporting extreme authoritarianism and proving horsehoe theory correct… those people want to throw the word “fascist” around 🤣
I hate it because all they achieved is making the word mean nothing. I everyone is calling the other fascist, then it is that much harder to call out actual fascists.
I definitely get what you mean, but I still don’t have trouble calling it how it is
I don’t mean it’s hard to actually say it - but the word gets diluted. And when yo do call out a fascist, it may not carry the weught it should because it is used by tankies or actual fascists as a word for someone who disagrees with them.
If you need more weight, bullets are heavier than words 😁
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Oh so they didn’t ally with Hitler, huh? 🤔 Dummy. Consider following your own advice.
Welcome to the blocklist lol
EDIT: also like, rightfully so that they were denied. The allies can be proud that they told bullshitters responsible for the worst attrocities in all of human history to fuck off. Genuinely the correct decision.
Just FYI. That’s a no life troll. The acct will be abandoned tomorrow. And they will still have no life.
No worries, I just instablock em. But yeah, it is more sad than anything when you think about the person behind the screen.
“ItS tHe AlLiEs FaUlT wE BuDdIeD uP wItH hItLeR” is pretty hilarious though
they became so far left, they are on the alt-right.
Remarkably, it’s not that much harder to type Cryptofascist than it is to type Cryptofash. What is a Crypto-fascist, btw?
Replace MoG with .ml and it was essentially reads the same.
In general, shitting on other nobodies from social networks is weak sauce. It doesn’t look cool and interesting to new users. And it genuinely sucks to see a bunch of dorks jerking themselves off at how dumb you are, even if you’re right.
But this community is lighthearted and cathartic. 🤪 I hope it stays this way. If they come visit, please be civil! There’s another person on the other side of the computers.
Sad that MotG is active and popular?
That’s like a republican being upset that Leopards Ate My Face is too busy.
Do they not understand how the material is generated?
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There is one reason I’m here and one reason alone. And that is because Lemmy.ml and allied instances refuse to allow open discussion and criticism of their ideas there. So we have to find another space for it. I suspect I’m not alone.
Want to decrease the popularity of this community? Stop enforcing wrongthink and allow people to discuss your ideas openly. I guarantee you this com would quickly dwindle.
That’s exactly it. I disagree with a lot of people in this community. I also disagree with a lot of people on lemmy.ml and the like. The difference is that here at least I can disagree without immediately being banned. It’s great that the fediverse allows diversity of thought between different instances, but internally each instance is structured as its own little fiefdom, and lemmy.ml has some questionable leadership.
im starting to see tankie posts infiltrating the political memes community on here.
Starting?
