I noticed that AI posts tend to get reported so I figured maybe we just make them officially disallowed.
Agree/disagree? Post and tell us why!
I noticed that AI posts tend to get reported so I figured maybe we just make them officially disallowed.
Agree/disagree? Post and tell us why!
Kinda? I know what the difference between LLMs and proc gen is. I don’t think that it will be clear if a ban comes into place, and people are so knee-jerk at anything that isn’t 100% human made that they will care and demand anything that uses any kind of artificial intelligence or non human composed and played music be burned at the stake.
Also, I think that LLM based generation is a subcategory of proc gen. I think LLM based stuff *can* be set up in non slop ways to create non slop work, and I want the “experimental” high effort LLM stuff to be treated as such.
Maybe let’s not presume how the community will behave given a new rule regarding generative AI. Music featuring digital instrumentation has certainly not been “burned at the stake” despite it not being “100% human made”.
Music composed and performed by generative AI (which was trained on the works of other artists) would understandably be met with criticism within the music community, and is a far cry from “100% human made” in that it is closer to “0% human made”.
I think once someone mentions “algorithm” or “I generated” it’s over. People won’t care about the details, because they’re people.
Hmm… I would usually think of proc gen as being more deterministic than what LLMs do (even if they use random numbers there’s usually a seed value to get consistent random numbers)
I guess in some ways the important part is how much work the purported artist put in to the output.
I haven’t re-installed my local copy of stable diffusion yet, but I’m pretty sure same seed + same prompt = same output. If you have one to hand, feel free to try… Thinking about this a bit more, I guess not, since you can run batches from the same seed, so I guess it’s not exactly the same?
Either way, running the same seed + prompt at least gives you similar outputs. It belongs in the same type of… “tool”?
Maybe if the guidelines are to ban LLMs? But even then, I want the weird , difficult to create LLM stuff to be posted, as long as it’s not suffocating everything else.
Yeah, I think this is something even the most hardcore AI guys will agree with. No one wants the community to be overrun by drivel.
Haha… I don’t have stablediffusion because !fuck_ai@lemmy.world but I didn’t realize they were that close to procedural generation techniques.
The problem with “effort” as a metric is that there’s high effort shit as well as low-effort good stuff. But I suppose usually the high-effort shit at least has a good story behind it.
yep. again, restriction instead of outright bans means that it’s up to us to give a shit or not when someone actually tries properly instead of just pulling something out of their ass.