• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    I’m not justifying war crimes committed by Russia, nor am I justifying the mountain of war crimes committed by Kiev over the last decade. Letting the Banderites walk into Donetsk and Luhansk and slaughter people would have been bad, plain and simple.

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      3 days ago

      Shockingly, you and I agree on something.

      Russia is committing war crimes in Ukraine.

      Was that so hard?

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        No? Never denied that Russia has committed war crimes in the Russo-Ukrainian war. Seems to be hard for you to admit that Nazis are running Ukraine and have been committing war crimes for a decade, though, and that this is worse than what Russia is doing, which is why the Donbass region supports Russia, with Donetsk and Luhansk voting to join the Russian Federation.

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          On 7 October 2014 in Zuhres, 53-year-old Ukrainian Ihor Kozhoma, who was trying to take his wife out of the occupied territory, was tied to a column and tortured for several hours by Russians and local separatists.

          Did he deserve to be tortured and killed?

          Donetsk civilian resident Iryna Dovhan was publicly tortured for her pro-Ukrainian position in August 2014.

          Did she deserve to be tortured?

          A member of Human Rights Watch witnessed the exhumation of a mass grave in Sloviansk that was uncovered after insurgents retreated from the city.

          Did those people deserve to be murdered and flung in a ditch?

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              The shelling of a school, a kindergarten, and residential areas along the line of contact in eastern Ukraine on February 17, 2022, apparently by Russia-backed armed groups, injured civilians and damaged civilian infrastructure, Human Rights Watch said today.

              Bro, you’re so bad at this that you’re providing me evidence for MY argument.

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              3 days ago

              Second link only discusses total ceasefire violations, and doesn’t mention A SINGLE FATALITY.

              What are you even doing, man?

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                  3 days ago

                  Moving the goalposts again. You said evidence of ethnic cleansing, not a report of ceasefire violations, which, as you are well aware, cover all combat activities, including unmanned systems.

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                    I provided multiple reports going over the conflict in Donetsk and Luhansk, which resulted in 13,000 civilians killed by Kiev. Those are the “goalposts.”

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            3 days ago

            yeah it’s horrible that two innocent people on your side got killed in the context of a violent coup that overthrew democracy for your side’s benefit and the ethnic cleansing of 13 thousand people

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            I’d guess all the Ukranian Jews killed by Banderite Holocaust collaborators in world War 2 would have a different opinion too, whats your point?