“It’s not about drugs. If it was, Trump wouldn’t have pardoned one of the largest narco traffickers in the world last month. It’s about oil and regime change. And they need a trial now to pretend that it isn’t. Especially to distract from Epstein + skyrocketing healthcare costs,” she claimed in a social media publication.

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    Yes Trump literally said in his speech that’s what it’s about, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

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      Shit, pretty sure he’s on tape telling Netentyahu, that starting a war to cancel elections is a great idea that he wants to do.

      He wants a regime change eventually, and so does the money behind him.

      But what trump wants more, is anything that will cancel midterms and last long enough to cancel the next presidential too.

      That’s why he’s doing this, holding onto political power is the golden goose. Not even trump is dumb enough to kill and eat the goose. As we get closer to elections, we’ll see him pass on money if it means holding onto power longer. But if midterms happen and he loses the House, that’s a lot of lost power, which means less money from bribes/grifts.

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        There’s no provision in US law for suspension of elections. No matter what we hold elections. Now they’ll certainly be ratfucked to hell and back but any suspension of elections will be totally illegal.

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          Problem is, it wouldn’t be the first thing that it totally and obviously illegal, that still gets done with 0 conequenses for the fascist.

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            I know, but they’d literally have to cite a foreign country’s laws as the justification like scrotus did pulling from english common law to nix Dobbs.

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            I don’t think even MAGA lets him get away with that. This is America and we have elections! We fuckin don’t vote in them but we have em, god dammit

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              They’ll let him get away with it, because they’re all going to lose their seats. The US has been taken over by a dictator. Our only hope is invasion.

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        Shit, pretty sure he’s on tape telling Netentyahu, that starting a war to cancel elections is a great idea that he wants to do.

        But what trump wants more, is anything that will cancel midterms and last long enough to cancel the next presidential too.

        The craziest and saddiest part of this theory most people were alive when the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Those elections were never cancelled.

        If the US does proceed with a full on invastion of Venezuela. Trumpie tells everyone that the elections has to be cancelled. There is a going to be sizeable part of the population that is going “Yeah, cancelling the elections during a war makes sense”. Even though most of them were alive during the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions.

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          Eh.

          Cancelling elections would be the precipitator to get a 1/6 type of thing, except this time against trump. Not to mention the few high ranking military who didn’t resign, have already shown their not cowards.

          trump assumes everyone against him left, but the only people who left were cowards who didn’t deserve to put a uniform on

          Anyone that’s not with trump and stayed, will likely see cancelled elections as the last opportunity to act. It won’t be fun, but that’s less a line in sand, and more the foundation this country was built on.

          I really don’t see even his biggest supporters defending cancelled elections. Especially with how much worse things are gonna be by even midterms

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            He’s not going to cancel elections. He doesn’t need to do it. He can delay results claiming fraud or not even that, just ignore the Congress.

            And maybe he won’t even need to do that. Just purge voters, strict voting laws enforcement, gerrymandering, just plain voter fraud.

            And maybe he won’t even need to do that, because republicans may still keep both houses without any fraudulent activity. Yes. There is a good chance that happens. You maybe read of a few disappointed voters, but most people are still 100% maga.

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              Magats are composed of 2 groups of people. Morons and scumbags. That’s it. Nothing else. And they’re are all over social media praising their orange shitler.

              They won’t catch on till they end up like the VnJ in Nazi Germany in the 30s.

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              You maybe read of a few disappointed voters, but most people are still 100% maga.

              Weird to remind people of this, but real life still exists bro…

              And wherever you’re reading about what they think, I bet a billionaire owns it.

              Why do you only find out about them thru billionaires?

              You do realize the billionaires don’t give a fuck about either group, and have been putting us against each other for generations and doing everything possible to segregate us?

              Like, these all feel like very basic questions, and I’m probably coming off condescendingly, but there’s some very important things we need to clear up here, and it seems like we need to start at a basic level.

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              I mean historically revolutions commonly involve military defectors/coups. No garuntee that will happen though

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                No guarantee it won’t involve another person stepping up against trump, seizing power and then holding onto it. Usually that’s how that happens

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      Well if you’re a fascist who doesn’t care about blending of the state with capital then it’s a pretty strong argument.

      They did sign contracts, let American companies build a bunch of infrastructure, then seized it at gunpoint.

      Iran, Iraq, etc done similar things, but Venezuela is pretty unique in that it lost the international legal cases and still refused to pay retribution.

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    People are gonna start falling out of windows in the US real soon.

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    When will the USA get billions from corporations to fix our crumbling infrastructure?

    Just wondering

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    Of course it is. Iraq was exactly the same operation, oil and regime change. And what AOC will do about that? She will say “Thank you for your service”. Nothing more, nothing less. USA is pirate state, if they want something, they will get it, no matter who is the President. The difference is how is done.

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      “Thank you for your service”

      This is what bothers me so much - It’s not just the US, I see it in Canada too. For how long will we ignore what that “service” was?

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        It’s been a few years since the US invaded Iraq… Regardless, China’s investment in oil production does not translate to consumption. About half of Iraq’s oil was going to the US around 2004.

        China gains power and influence in foreign nations through significant investment in infrastructure (often leading to enormous debt), which is going to result in significant long-term gains for China. The US approach is to smash the front door down and loot the place, then install a puppet who is hopefully loyal to them and won’t be easily ousted.

        I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of either of them, but I know which one I’d choose if I had to pick one.

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    I’ve been to Venezuela twice for some extended stays. First time when Chavez was still around. Second time when Maduro was a couple years in office. I can still remember listening to his radio addresses. I remember feeling the heat off the asphalt in the city, the crazy traffic, the beautiful beaches.

    Looking down from the hills onto the canopy below and seeing fireworks at midnight Christmas Eve into Christmas. I knew id never be back as it was dangerous AF then (2013 last time).

    We would say it was once a beautiful country but now it’s just a beautiful land.

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    So much for Tulsi Gabbard’s weirdly specific position against “regime change wars”.

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    And deflecting from the Epstein files. Never forget that. Now that they’ve recently found a billionteen more files it’ll take 'em a bit longer to redact, I mean release them. But yes, the oil. Now they can drive cheaply to their rape locations.

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    The distractions are gonna get wilder and more often until he is locked up and denied bail

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    yoo its only a few days after New Year wtf man.

    Also this gives me 2019 vibes: January 2019 right after New Year Trump ordered missile strike that hit a top Iranian general’s vehicle.

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    Do people criticizing AOC have any idea how limited a house members direct power is. The most impactful thing she can do from her seat on a regular basis is normalize the contempt. She’s not even a senator ffs. I really hope we’re able to rally against the hateful bigots. This country is a mess and full of dumbass tools blissfully ignorant to reality in every corner.

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      Yeah like, I’ll friggin take it, all the power to that fierce woman! Maybe she can’t directly fix everything, but you’re right, people discount the fact that her outspoken truth to power can embolden dissent.

      Eventually that fury has the power to change minds, and some of those minds can directly do something about this. (Especially if their constituents pressure them enough and don’t give them any wiggle room.)

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      I think most of us realize that she is a token FDR New Deal Democrat, with no actual power. She’s like a release valve for citizens to cheer for. SHE GETS IT, etc.

      There are always a few, they provide cover for big money leadership like Schumer (who is NOT a new deal democrat, he’s like a 90s Republican)