I hope this post fits the content and format of this community, if not I’m sorry.
I’m just incredibly shocked by the fact that an admin of the instance lemmy.dbzer0.com is openly supporting Hamas.
Here’s a link to the comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/61235665/23634712
No, they’re not. The instance is heavily anarchist and explicitly against Tankie shit. That doesn’t prevent them from endorsing problematic perspectives though.
Go to their leftymeme community, there is a lot of regressive tankie content.
Glorification of the CCP (claiming they are not authoritarian), glorification of DPRK (!!!), tons of “Death to America” type content, whitewashing of russia and much more…
These is pretty standard stuff for online “communists” based in the West.
You should find some of those posts and share in this comm
I think I will do that one of these days, I honestly have only been two comms on DB0, one unrelated to politics and the other one is the mod abuse one where I got perma-banned for challenging DB0’s pet poster (believe it or not they didn’t perma-ban me for pointing out the regressiveness and lack of humanity of the tankies).
Lol
Apparently if the USSR killed you, you were a Nazi. 100% Nazis the USSR never killed anybody that wasn’t a Nazi/s
Especially the millions of people who definitely were not Nazis like those dastardly ukrainians and Afghans and Georgians and those capitalists etc
https://lemmy.zip/post/53743865
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lmao that’s a good post. you should share that one
Be my guest
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Lefty Memes follows the principle of “leftist unity”.
I strongly oppose the principle, and especially disagree that it benefits anarchism, but it should be clear still that your conflation, of everyone as belonging to the same monolithic group, is narrow and ignorant.
I actually didn’t say anything about monolithic groups or leftists unity (to be honest, I couldn’t care less about this).
I did say that DB0 was suspect and they enable and promote tankie demagoguery (among many other things, glorification of the brutal DPRK regime).
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You imply the existence of a monolithic group by your continued careless use of “they” and “their”.
Unity doesn’t mean you should be allowing extremism and bigotry.
You have already demonstrated elsewhere in the comments that your sense of bigotry is distorted, as through the twisted rhetoric of Zionism.
Regardless, my objection is to the assumption that everyone associated with DB0 agrees with all off the content, as would seem to be based on a mindset of “us versus them”.
Yes, Zionism is a very convenient dogwhistle
David Duke of the KKK also uses zionism way prior to social media recognition, where he uses Zionist to refer to Jews.
I’ve dealt with neo-nazis and their extremism before and they too use zionism as a means of obscuring their views. For someone who larps so much about nuance, you should know that dogwhistles exist, and it’s the contents of the post that determine whether or not something is extremist and bigoted, or in this case, antisemitic.
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yes, much like how i challenge tankies. they’re all the same at the end of the day
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They cosy up together at a campfire, dude. You heard of a nazi bar? If a bar doesn’t throw out a nazi, it becomes a nazi bar, and that’s exactly what’s happened to dbzer0. Circlejerking about how great authoritianism is and refusing to challenge tankies or take a stance against them is not anarchism.
They’re tankies and regularly cater towards tankies, such as Davels (Lemmy.ml admin), Cowbee and Diva, all self-confessed tankies.
They also regularly engage in ableism against me and others. They’re bigots and trolls, no wonder they federate with Hexbear.
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Ouf, I had no idea. Thanks for the screenshots. I only “met” unruffled and kittenzrulz.
Yeah, db0 is fully tankie
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losing*
Why would anarchists not support anti-colonial resistance?
Uhm, because it’s Islamic fundamentalism so basically right-wing?
The colonizers are not seeking to save Palestine from Islamic fundamentalism, but Hamas is fighting the colonizers to save Palestine.
The ideology is less relevant than the facts of life and death. Consider rereading the comment you posted for further clarity. “Morality means nothing to the dead.”
The ideology is relevant because it determines what happens if Hamas “saved Palestine”. They will constitute an Islamic state just like Iran and oppress it’s people.
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If Palestine is freed from the colonizers, then it will have boundless options for its own governance.
No conclusion is foregone respecting such affairs.
If the colonizers are not resisted, then Palestinians simply will be dead.
It should seem clear that you are following the worse path.
You can’t honestly believe that Hamas will let the Palestinian people decide their own fate after the past 20 years of no formal democratic election whatsoever.
Palestinians are oppressed by Israel not Hamas.
If Israel were defeated, then the political configuration in Palestine would be transformed, with opportunities opening for different governance.
Hamas is not some magically indefeasible force. It is simply a political faction, and one that Palestinians rightfully perceive as not their enemy. It rose to power through a combination of popular elections and Israel’s meddling into the internal affairs of Palestine. Israel wanted Hamas to emerge as the dominant political faction in Gaza.
Regardless, and I am really at a loss for your failure to acknowledge the worse alternative of being dead.
Palestinians are oppressed by Israel and by Hamas. Those two things can be true and no contradiction. Guess what, Hamas doesn’t care about Palestinians as much as Netanyahu doesn’t care about Israelis. Both are just power hungry right-wing assholes.
I like the dissonance here. If Israel wanted Hamas to emerge as the dominant political faction, then Hamas mustn’t be very good for the Palestinians then, is it?
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That’s very campist. Doesn’t that mean anarchists would’ve supported the Irgun and Lehi? Jewish terrorists who attacked arab colonisers or settlers and later went on to create the Likud party?
Because those groups, much like Hamas, say that they’re a resistance against colonisation.
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I defined campism in another comment. Your understanding of the term is inaccurate.
Again, you are falling victim to all-or-nothing thinking. It is not honest or reasonable.