• unfreeradical@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      14 days ago

      No one claims, to my knowledge not one person ever, that the massive death toll for Hamas’s surprise attack “didn’t happen”.

      Please stop attacking such an absurd straw man.

      It is essential to acknowledge, however, that Israel’s account of events is not credible.

        • unfreeradical@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          14 days ago

          Hasbara is Israeli propaganda.

          No one claims that no one was killed, only that Israel’s account of events is deeply inaccurate. Arguing against the claim that no one was killed is, in the most charitable case, misconstruing the controversy.

          For example, we do know that many of the Israeli deaths were directly attributable to fire from Israeli gunships.

          Continuing as you do, either you are poorly informed, or deliberately dishonest.

          • null@piefed.nullspace.lolEnglish
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            14 days ago

            I said they murdered and raped, you said that was “debunked”

            Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

            • unfreeradical@slrpnk.netEnglish
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              14 days ago

              Your “gotcha” questioning isn’t the own you think.

              You blundered, by uncritically parroting Israeli propaganda used to justify Israel’s atrocities.

              Instead you should learn about the serious problems with the Israeli narrative. and then reevaluate your own perspective. Until then, your discussing the subject is not productive.

              To people not dwelling in a rabbit hole of Zionist propaganda, my characterization is not misleading.

              If someone says a Tale of Two Cities is fiction, are they lying because Old Bailey and the Bastille are real?

              • null@piefed.nullspace.lolEnglish
                21·
                14 days ago

                Just looking to know which time you were lying. Simple question.

                I didn’t parrot anything. Sorry you think “rape and murder is bad” requires some kind of propaganda to believe.

                Says a lot about how you get your talking points though.

                • unfreeradical@slrpnk.netEnglish
                  11·
                  14 days ago

                  Simple question.

                  There’s your problem. You’re trying to discuss complex political issues with massively absurd oversimplifications.

                  I answered your question. If you don’t accept the answer, that’s on you.

                  • null@piefed.nullspace.lolEnglish
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                    14 days ago

                    Something is either debunked, or it isn’t. That’s simply not a complex issue.

                    Says a lot that you won’t give a straight answer though. Or use concise language about anything.

                    Because if you did, you’d have to decide whether to go with:

                    • Rape and murder of civilians is actually good sometimes and when Hamas does it it’s good Or
                    • Of course they’re going to rape and murder civilians while they resist, because you look down on the Palestinian people as savage, barbaric people who can’t help but rape and murder civilians.

                    I wonder which it is.