Edit: this is meant to be a shitpost. I don’t care about your favorite series/universe. You do you.
Depends on which star trek and which star wars
I wanted to try Star Trek recently, but found out it’s like 1000 episodes and 15 movies, so it might take a while. Though I’ve heard not everything is worth watching.
Can anyone from Star Trek’s fan base provide some more insights on which shows can be safely skipped, if any?
As for watch order, I’m gonna go with release date order, unless there are any special circumstances.
The ones worth watching in my opinion are, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, finally Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks together. As for The Original Series, Enterprise, Discovery, Cadets, Picard, and the rest can be skipped. The Original Series is fun to go back to but it’s so unlike the rest I can’t get into it.
Putting strange new worlds above TOS is inconceivable to me. S1 of TOS alone has several episodes well above the best of SNW (Corbomite maneuver, city on the edge of forever, Balance of Terror). Though there’s also a decent amount of poorly aged material… pretty much agreed otherwise. Also, I agree they should watch SNW, just not in lieu of TOS
Personally, I liked Enterprise. Flock is my favorite ST doctor by a wide margin (though I haven’t seen anything newer than enterprise, other than one of the reboot movies).
It’s a different feel from the series that came before it, way more ad-hoc with what they are doing since they are the first human ship to boldly explore the unknown.
Though I’ve heard not everything is worth watching.
You heard wrong 😎
Seriously, if you ask ten Trekkies you’ll get twelve opinions on what’s good, what isn’t, and why. My best advice is to try everything, skip a few seasons ahead if a show is not resonating at first, and if it still isn’t hitting the mark for you at that point move on to the next series. Most shows* take a while to reach their potential, but until the recent stuff they’re all episodic enough that you can feel free to jump around a bit.
*The original series is the exception, it pretty much hits the ground running.
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On another note entirely, this looks like one of those memes that’s a still clip from a porn film with an amusing unrelated caption
If you want to compare current stuff, then both are trash. sequel trilogy at least had the decency of being entertaining garbage while disco was 10% plot and 90% people talking about the 10% in case you missed anything while looking at tiktok.
original trilogy and next generation are both good shit, and are good for different reasons.
Idk, Star Wars and Star Trek only share the sense that they’re both in space, overall both very different and we like both. Personally we like Star Wars more because autism brain but yeah start trek is good too :3
but the shots fired were from red shirt ensigns
What would happen if storm troopers shot at red shirts?
Wow. Simultaneously, endless war and world peace, as no one dies from war.
Post TNG and Voyager, they’ve been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Maybe it’s because I grew up with these shows, and now I’m old I just want something with a bit more heft.
It’s just all seems like light entertainment these days. Something akin to The Expanse is what I’m after.
Post TNG and Voyager, they’ve been fairly blah with a handful of decent standout episodes.
Lower decks! Lower decks! Lower decks!
not gonna sub to paramount not gonna sub to paramount not gonna sub to paramount.
I don’t subscribe to disney either. so I’ve basically missed out of anything that wasn’t on netflix. and I’m probably going to cancel netflix too.
not gonna sub
to paramountnot gonna subto paramountnot gonna subto paramount.There, I’ve fixed it for you.
Now do like the rest of us Orions and watch the best Star Trek since TNG.
ech… I’m one of those ancient weirdos who want artists to get paid for their work. and I’m already in front of screens too much for work and gaming, corpulent etc.,.
And you think production is going to share their profits from a finished series with the artists?
and I’m already in front of screens too much for work and gaming, corpulent etc.,.
That I get 100%
And you think production is going to share their profits from a finished series with the artists?
I don’t know if it’s still applicable to productions taking place today across the board, but SAG still exists so I have to believe a large number of hollywood productions still give residuals to people…?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual_(entertainment_industry)
I know for many it’s a pittance but better something than nothing at all.
I’m probably thinking too much into all this and will catch up sometime in the future after the apocalypse. thanks for the insight.
If I’m getting this article correctly, they’re only getting paid for the success of the show within 90 days of release on a streaming platform. Everything else is based on the streaming service buying the license to show the series.
So the only way to maybe get them some additional pay would be for you to purchase it through some non streaming method like buying a dvd from amazon, or to wait for paramount to sell the license to a new streaming service and you take part in the whatever percentage of the service is required to watch the show within 90 days for them to get a bonus.
You have an objection to sailing the high seas?
yeah I’m one of those idiots who think artists should be paid for their labors :|
I know, it’s like… so last century. I did some arrrrrgghmatey kinda stuff when I was younger but not since like… newsgroup releases back in the protoweb days.
Got a blu-ray player?
Mail some cash to the artists then.
artists should be paid for their labors
I get that, but if you’ll never pay for paramount, I imagine if you asked the artists whether they’d rather have their work stolen or never viewed at all I suspect they’d choose the former.
No.
The Expanse has ruined my enjoyment of most space sci-fi shows. It was too good
Try the expense audiobooks. They are as good and better than the TV show
Andor has been better than anything Star Trek has put out in the last ten years.
Yeah, and cow shit’s better than pig shit.
But it’s all still shit.
What didn’t you like about Andor? And if your answer is “I didn’t see it”, then why do you already have an opinion on it?
Andor’s the exception to the rule.
[Edit: oh, oops, I guess I still had other comments in my mind when I was replying to that. Was replying more to the general the new stuff’s not as good as the old stuff vibe. Though still, under scrutiny, even the old Star Wars stuff has a lot of holes, and so it’s hard to build something good on that. So I guess in the case of Andor, they’ve managed to improve(?) more.]
Andor and Solo are good, most of the rest of Star Wars including all the “space wizard” stuff is shallow as hell and far more casually cynical than Star Trek is.
I’m not sure how you can defend Solo when one of its subplots is literally “the exploitative plight of droids is funny lmao”
valid, I am not defending it there, but at least it acknowledged the concept…
And also "the one droid fighting for droids’ rights is
spoiler
literally turned into a permanently-enslaved appliance at the end."
star trek catching up fast at being dogshit with every show now being jack bauer
I prefer the shitpost genre. We live in the Bronze Age of shitposting, can’t wait for what comes next.
Oh my!
I feel like doctor who is more of a comparison to Star Trek no.
I think it’s a dumb debate personally.
I love my space exploration show. I also love my space wizard drama, and my space politics show, and my wibbly wobbly spacey wacey show. I just like goofy shows in space.
Except Picard. I don’t care for Picard.
I think it’s a dumb debate personally.
Seriously.
Babylon 5 is obviously the better one.
These comparisons feel like people trying to compare Michael Jordan and Babe Ruth and asking which was the better athlete.
Even though it’s pure fan service, I loved the 3rd season of Picard
I found Picard enjoyable while I was watching, but retrospectively I can’t remember a single scene I enjoyed. It’s fine, but it’s ephemera.
Eh, they both have their place. I can’t get behind Jedi being emotionally stunted or the federation not using it’s tech to the fullest.
My one exception is pre-Disney Mandolorians. Nothing is sexier than freefalling from orbit on the back of a 6 legged robot dragon with nothing but your platemail and a vague goal of scaring the shit out of locals.
the federation not using it’s tech to the fullest.
Funny you say that, since the Federation arguably doesn’t.
Just look at warp drives, for example. A galaxy-class can go from reverse to full forward in a third of a millisecond. Smaller, newer ships like the Intrepid, of the Sovereign, would be both faster and even more agile.
Federation starships should be zooming about the battlefield like dragonflies instead of slowly flying around each other like star wars ships. Though it makes some sense why they won’t, since the viewers would have a fit about it being unrealistic.
My biggest grievance is that the threat of death exists when, between replicators and transporter errors, they could populate their ships with unending clone armies to explore without ever risking anything.
Not having clone armies at least makes sense, since the Federation isn’t exactly that fond of cloning sapients, inorganics aside. Too many ethical issues involved.
Ok, so instead of staffing a ship with 1000 duplicates of one guy who volunteers to go out and risk his life, they could add some extra storage to the transport buffer and require weekly backups of all crew. Then if redshirt #3 dies planet side they just spin him back up and tell him what went wrong. They have video game style save points on every ship and they’re using them to save on gas.
My one exception is pre-Disney Mandolorians. Nothing is sexier than freefalling from orbit on the back of a 6 legged robot dragon with nothing but your platemail and a vague goal of scaring the shit out of locals.
My knowledge of Star Wars is almost entirely pre-Disney, but I am completely lost here. What is that describing?
Legends stuff. Mostly comics I believe?
You’d enjoy the opening to Starship Troopers.
The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage but the openinging sequence is good. And the likely inspiration for the drop you described.
The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage
Just have to ask…you do realize it’s satire, right?
The film adaptation was satirical, but the novel that it was based on was not.
The exact words of the text
The book? Or the movie?
The book is 100% serious. It’s fucking ridiculous. But Heinlein is pretty sincere and uses it as his philosophical treatise. There’s more than one section where he sits everyone down in a classroom for a lecture.
The movie is satire. It takes the themes presented and makes sure that everyone who espouses the virtues of the militant fascist state is horribly disfigured.
I have a hard time getting a read on Heinlein because he also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is as left as Starship Troopers is right.
As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together.
Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you’ve described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you’re pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others.
