• Julian@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Half-Life 2 introduced a sidekick who’s mixed race, has dyed hair, and punches cops in her first scene. And yet I’ve heard no one call that game woke.

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    4 months ago

    Games if anything are less woke now than they used to be. Forget games featuring female protagonists; well-loved classics like Final Fantasy 7 have strong underlying themes regarding pollution, climate change and environmentalism, and Metal Gear Solid was a biting critique of the military industrial complex all the way back in the 90s!

    Prior to the current, rampant commercialisation of video games - they used to be viewed as art or at the very least passion projects, intentionally designed with a strong underlying message.

    The problem now is that with the ubiquity of the internet, Gamers™ have unintentionally collaborated into creating echo chamber where the worst of humanity is given the largest soap box.

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    4 months ago

    Honestly I think this is a bad example. Guys are generally happy to play games with attractive bad-ass female leads. See Metroid/Tomb Raider/Bayonetta/Nier/etc

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    3 months ago

    No, because she’d be a new character instead of a lazy, crappy rewrite of already established characters. Which is why I hate current Luke Skywalker, but not Miles Morales. It’s why I hate current Klingons, but not Baldur’s Gate 3 (haven’t played it (yet)).

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        4 months ago

        Not to put words in their mouth, but I think that’s what he’s saying:

        Miles Morales is cool, because he’s his own person with their own character traits.

        As opposed to rebooting Peter Parker and making him a half black, half Puerto Rican (which I think is what he is inferring when mentioning Luke Skywalker and Klingons).

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            4 months ago

            Absolutely; but I was more interpreting what that one person commented on - rather than speaking for a larger community.

            Miles was absolutely hated on by racists, which is a massive L for them as Stan Lee had repeatedly said that one of the reasons why Spider-Man’s outfit covers him from head-to-toe is that anyone could see themselves in that character.

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    4 months ago

    The issue I have Is when there whole character is that they are a minority

    Like I love Ashoka but Ray Skywalker is just boring

    Now when people hate on actual good characters like Samus That’s when alarms should be sounded

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      I love how Rey could have been an example of how the force can manifest in anyone . But instead she’s Palpatine’s granddaughter so never mind turns out it’s just hereditary lol. They had it all setup and then fumbled it.

      It’s kind of amazing how shitty episode 7-9 are. The franchise made a profit on momentum alone.

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        They had it all setup and then fumbled it.

        Well, no. JJ Abrams had some bullshit vaguely scribbled out in the margins - probably the Palpatine nonsense. The actual movie was promising.

        Rian Johnson accepted everything the first movie did and gave different answers. The answers were fantastic! The movie was… okay.

        JJ then went nuh uh! nuh uh! and crammed eighteen different half-baked ideas into a MacGuffin chase that made absolutely everything worse. The movie was so pretty, and the movie was so dumb.

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    4 months ago

    Tom Hanks had a TV show about two guys who wear women’s clothes so they can live in a female only residence.

    Ran from 1980 to 1982 and it was never a big deal with the Christian Nationalists then.

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      As a needlessly serious answer - conservatives don’t mind exceptions. What scares the shit out of them is any systemic challenge to The Hieararchy.™ Guys in dresses as a punchline doesn’t ask them to reconsider how men and women are treated differently. Like asking why there’s a female-only residence in the first place.

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        4 months ago

        Have you ever watched “Some Like It Hot?” Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis, and Jack Lemon

        It came out in 1959 and asked all the questions you brought up. Sailed past the censors and was popular on TV for decades

        My opinion is that because it was a ‘silly movie’ it got to say things a ‘serious’ film would be condemned