• mrdown@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Israel is the occupier it do bad things because the state has a supremacist ideology and want all Palestinians expulsed or killed . Occupied people do atrocities as an retaliation to occupations . Once Palestinians are liberated they will live peacefully with their Israelis

    The political reality and history of the region is as simple as Israel is evil based on facts I mentioned in the other comment

    Let’s look at some facts though. Islamists and secular dictators in the region have killed far more people than Israel. The same dictators who are abandoning Palestinians and are improving their relation with Israel. Israel is trying to normalize with El jolani which is an islamists. You are a bad faith and hypocritical person who try to justify occupation , settler colonialism and genocide

    When asked if Hamas had committed the atrocities seen in the videos shown by international media displaying acts or atrocities committed by Hamas members against Israeli civilians, such as killing women and children in their homes. The overwhelming majority (86%) said it did not commit such atrocities, and only 10% said it did.

    That’s what happen when you are oppressed for 80 goddamn year where israel is continuing the theft of land and want to exterminate Palestinians . Netanyahu said it pretty clearly there will never be a Palestinian state because the land is our and he compared Palestinians to Amalek there is no more clear intention of extermination not just genocide than that even Hitler was using better euphemism to deflect from the fact that he wanted to exterminate jews

    Of course the Arab public blames the USA and Israel for everything bad. You can also look up what conspiracy theories are popular in the Arab world and you will see how much validity public opinion has. Blaming Israel and the USA (and the west) for every failure has been a goto for political and religious leaders for more than a hundred years. It’s the whole basis of Muslim brother type Islamism for example.

    You are just a racist . Of course arabs did kill ton of people in history but it is nothing compared to the west and europe . The USA and Israel is to blame from settler colonialism and genocide . If we talk about who is the most responsible of death of people in history it is Europe. British in India alone are responsible for about 60 to 100 millions death. World war 1 and 2 happened because of European imperialist and colonialism ideology . Nazis was also Europeans. Almost every western intervention resulted to mass muder or civil wars

    If you want the conspiracy to be limited you should ask for unconditional end of the occupation . Yo can’t be really anti islamists while at the same time supporting Jewish supremacy which do not represent all jews

    At the end of the day there is nothing that justify settler colonialism and genocide that Israel is doing