Experts are warning that the Trump administration’s ongoing crackdown in Minnesota could quickly get out of hand and could even result in a second US civil war.

Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, wrote in a Wednesday column published by the Guardian that she and her colleagues at the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) conducted a tabletop exercise in October 2024 that simulated potential outcomes if a US president were to carry out law enforcement operations similar to the ones being conducted by the Trump administration with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers in Minnesota.

“In that exercise, a president carried out a highly unpopular law-enforcement operation in Philadelphia and attempted to federalize the Pennsylvania’s National Guard,” Finkelstein explained. “When the governor resisted and the guard remained loyal to the state, the president deployed active-duty troops, resulting in an armed conflict between state and federal forces.”

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    I read that as facetious, but I dunno, they could be accelerationist

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        Well rip buddy that didn’t seem to land at all lol. Tbf, while I think lemmy is generally pretty good about reading sarcasm without the “/s”, this one honestly was pretty ambiguous as there are whole instances of users who unironically hold that opinion

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        And living in a bunker I guess. Even leaving out the areseneals both sides would have in a civil war 2 the world wide economy would collapse rapidly.

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          Not the economy! Nooooooo!

          https://youtu.be/izDAOvHz5Wc

          The world is already working on cutting America out of the world wide economy. Worry about the human suffering and destruction this will cause, not tHE eCOnOmy.

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              The economy as we know it means human suffering and destruction already, because it’s based upon reputation, lies, exploitation, and bets. Economic collapse and economic collapse are two different things.

              The movement of goods and services is unlikely to suddenly stop. Reduce? Sure. Stop? No. The world is preparing and making agreements without US involvement to allow movement to continue. I mean, capitalism is already predicated on boom and bust, economic collapse is already built into the system.

              Economic crisis can always be measured in terms of statistical indices. But more important still, people in their day-to-day lives, will know what it means to be living in a state of economic crisis

              • Walter Rodney

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              Yeah, the BBC are talking 'bout the GDP
              That means fuck all to me
              I gotta eat

              https://youtu.be/st6qnWeePDY

              What the numbers say and the reality of life are two very different things. Care about the reality of life, not how the fucking DOW Jones is doing. Fuck the economy, humans are what matter. The economy is largely a charade.

              Anyway, America became a superpower because it was a manufacturing powerhouse with the world’s biggest stick. Now it only has the stick and other countries are making their own big sticks. The world will be fine, economically, without America. And America’s economy, is a lie, the working person is unlikely to be worrying about the NYSE or DOW Jones when the Gestapo and SA are prowling the streets.

              America is building concentration camps, murdering citizens on the street, threatening global war, and the worry is the economy? Fuck that. The economy will adapt and survive. Worry about the human suffering.