Oh my fucking god… Every comment in this stupid thread is saying the same stupid thing. “Time to get your guns…”, "Exercise your 2nd amendment… " Yeah, that’s hilarious tough guy. Do you have a gun? No? well do you have a gun license? No? Well do you know the first thing about firearms? You do! Oh you’ve played several call of duty games… Awesome. Do you know that you’re statistically more likely to shoot a family member than a home intruder? Well I hope you don’t like them much.
Ok, moving past the idiotic bravado… It sounds like you have no solution for people who aren’t just itching to murder other people. Say for instance, that I have no interest in shooting someone, and in fact feel that a civil society should not involve shooting anyone, especially fellow countrymen. With that in mind, for the sane perhaps 70% of Americans, do you have any useful advice besides “get a gun”?
Finally, if your plan does work and every American arms themselves, then congratulations, we’ve fallen into civil war 2. Now what? Even if you do have guns, the government has bigger ones and they have munitions you don’t. You will always, always be outgunned by the military. Now being armed makes you a hostile combatant/terrorist agent in the eyes of the law, anything you do with it will be deemed illegal. Some good that 2nd amendment is doing you. What’s your plan now?
We will will revolt so you can stay cozy, lil buddy.
Already fought a war over bullshit that didn’t help Americans or our security…it will be nice actually be fighting for a cause this time.
When you feel powerless and don’t know how to fix a situation it’s only natural to want to do something, that makes perfect sense. But it’s worth remembering, that there is no situation so bad that you can’t still make it worse. Sometimes when all your options are bad, waiting to act is in fact the correct course of action.
More Americans died in the civil war than in any other American conflict. This is despite the increasing lethality of weaponry over the years, despite the scope and length of wars like WW2. Following the war much of the country was left in ruin, the economic cost was staggering, it took decades to recover.
My point is, starting a war is a bad idea. Sure, at least it’s doing something, but it’s doing the wrong thing, it’s the opposite of helping.
As a gun owner, I agree with this. Open fire on ICE…see how that goes. You won’t win. You might kill one, but they will CERTAINLY kill your back. Isn’t it odd that in the most armed county on earth, no ICE officers have been shot in the line of duty (check me there, but I’m not familiar with one)?
Seems like most people are focused on the gun thing here. You already said it; what civil solution do we have?
Honestly, an .ml agreeing is the only thing giving me pause. That suggests the CCP wants us shooting each other and their agents are stoking that rage.
Interesting.
You see one user of the original instance and you assume I’m CCP? If it were that straight forwardly obvious, wouldn’t you think they’d move to a new instance? No, I’m saying because I know my history and am actually in the thick of it in America unlike you, you troll. What rage would even be stoked?
I am not saying go straight to mindlessly shooting people, that won’t happen and will certainly only hurt people. I am saying that if these options do fail, which they have every time they haven’t been backed up with the threat of violence, options are limited with what can be done next.
Community building. That’s the best thing we can do right now. Building social structures to help take care of everyone when the crumbling system will inevitably fail us. This can include making sure that vulnerable people are safe when ICE are sighted in the local area.
Oh my fucking god… Every comment in this stupid thread is saying the same stupid thing. “Time to get your guns…”, "Exercise your 2nd amendment… " Yeah, that’s hilarious tough guy. Do you have a gun? No? well do you have a gun license? No? Well do you know the first thing about firearms? You do! Oh you’ve played several call of duty games… Awesome. Do you know that you’re statistically more likely to shoot a family member than a home intruder? Well I hope you don’t like them much.
Ok, moving past the idiotic bravado… It sounds like you have no solution for people who aren’t just itching to murder other people. Say for instance, that I have no interest in shooting someone, and in fact feel that a civil society should not involve shooting anyone, especially fellow countrymen. With that in mind, for the sane perhaps 70% of Americans, do you have any useful advice besides “get a gun”?
Finally, if your plan does work and every American arms themselves, then congratulations, we’ve fallen into civil war 2. Now what? Even if you do have guns, the government has bigger ones and they have munitions you don’t. You will always, always be outgunned by the military. Now being armed makes you a hostile combatant/terrorist agent in the eyes of the law, anything you do with it will be deemed illegal. Some good that 2nd amendment is doing you. What’s your plan now?
This comment is wild
We will will revolt so you can stay cozy, lil buddy. Already fought a war over bullshit that didn’t help Americans or our security…it will be nice actually be fighting for a cause this time.
When you feel powerless and don’t know how to fix a situation it’s only natural to want to do something, that makes perfect sense. But it’s worth remembering, that there is no situation so bad that you can’t still make it worse. Sometimes when all your options are bad, waiting to act is in fact the correct course of action.
More Americans died in the civil war than in any other American conflict. This is despite the increasing lethality of weaponry over the years, despite the scope and length of wars like WW2. Following the war much of the country was left in ruin, the economic cost was staggering, it took decades to recover.
My point is, starting a war is a bad idea. Sure, at least it’s doing something, but it’s doing the wrong thing, it’s the opposite of helping.
Tell me you’re describing your own lack of experience with firearms without telling me you’re describing your own lack of experience with firearms.
So you plan to just take the abuse and the loss of your liberties and freedoms?
I’ll stick to my guns.
As a gun owner, I agree with this. Open fire on ICE…see how that goes. You won’t win. You might kill one, but they will CERTAINLY kill your back. Isn’t it odd that in the most armed county on earth, no ICE officers have been shot in the line of duty (check me there, but I’m not familiar with one)?
Seems like most people are focused on the gun thing here. You already said it; what civil solution do we have?
Protests, which are doing little to nothing. What happens when those fail? This is extreme fedposting.
Honestly, an .ml agreeing is the only thing giving me pause. That suggests the CCP wants us shooting each other and their agents are stoking that rage. Interesting.
You see one user of the original instance and you assume I’m CCP? If it were that straight forwardly obvious, wouldn’t you think they’d move to a new instance? No, I’m saying because I know my history and am actually in the thick of it in America unlike you, you troll. What rage would even be stoked?
Me, looking up what fedposting is…lol. Ben Jordan did a great video on that or something similar. Quickly becoming my favorite YouTuber.
You make a good point; protest, write representatives, all good things. Vote in the midterms (assuming we have them).
All that said, it doesn’t make what I said untrue. Post 2nd amendment stuff if it’s cathartic, but think it through.
I’m shook by how powerless I feel and guns don’t help the situation. But that feeling of helplessness is a feature of the fascism playbook.
I am not saying go straight to mindlessly shooting people, that won’t happen and will certainly only hurt people. I am saying that if these options do fail, which they have every time they haven’t been backed up with the threat of violence, options are limited with what can be done next.
Community building. That’s the best thing we can do right now. Building social structures to help take care of everyone when the crumbling system will inevitably fail us. This can include making sure that vulnerable people are safe when ICE are sighted in the local area.
You are already defeated I see.
You are already brainwashed I see.
Do you understand what irony is?
Back to the keyboard they go.
Legit question, are you brain damaged?
Completely agree.
Now if they fix this up, they might shut up about how great it is and how free it keeps them because that’s all we ever fuckin heard.
People break into my house I’m with intent to harm me andy family
This guy: welp. Guess I’ll die.
He didn’t ever get his gun license.
Says 80% of the global population…
Yeah, that’s such a weird stance. It’s just what the vast majority of people do.
So do you put like ketchup or ranch on the boot first, or…?
You’re welcome to not have guns. No one is forcing you to defend yourself. You can fight ICE with your bare hands if you want.
But maybe don’t shit on others for wanting to be pragmatic.