I think this is a cultural version of goth. That’s allowed. No, it’s definitely not what I’d expect for western goth, it’s very tame and looks almost cyberpunk or video game-ish. But if that’s a style that develops independently, that’s cool.
Words have meanings. And sub cultures shouldn’t be erased by people from the mainstream appropriating that culture without any knowledge or respect for what it is.
It’s hard to describe accurately without going into a full thesis on the subject but Goth is inherently counter culture, evolving from British Punk culture, it’s about art primarily music and literature and community and being different. It’s about finding beauty in the dark and morbid and occult when most people prefer the light and glamorous.
The fashion specifically is rooted in Victorian British influence and incorporates that same dark romanticism, occult and morbid themes. It’s not just black clothes = goth.
What’s goth about this?
Is it just because the clothes are black?
I think this is a cultural version of goth. That’s allowed. No, it’s definitely not what I’d expect for western goth, it’s very tame and looks almost cyberpunk or video game-ish. But if that’s a style that develops independently, that’s cool.
What do you mean by “cultural”??
What is culturally Goth about this?
Sorry, guess we’re getting back to gatekeeping goth then and dictating what another culture’s should look like?
Words have meanings. And sub cultures shouldn’t be erased by people from the mainstream appropriating that culture without any knowledge or respect for what it is.
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The black, the boots, and the barely concealed look of utter disdain
Just because something is black doesn’t make it goth. Goth is an actual subculture.
Is it? Can you show what the “actual” subculture is? Until you do you’re simply gatekeeping.
It’s hard to describe accurately without going into a full thesis on the subject but Goth is inherently counter culture, evolving from British Punk culture, it’s about art primarily music and literature and community and being different. It’s about finding beauty in the dark and morbid and occult when most people prefer the light and glamorous.
The fashion specifically is rooted in Victorian British influence and incorporates that same dark romanticism, occult and morbid themes. It’s not just black clothes = goth.