• steeznson@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    IMO the issue is that Tony Blair so comprehensively changed politics that parties can’t win elections in the UK anymore from a leftwing platform. The alternative is that the government/Starmer are sitting there being told that a leftward move is significantly more popular than their current platform, and that they are - suicidally - ignoring that evidence due to ideology.

    How would one square the implicit suggestion that Starmer is taking bold ideological stances with the fact that the one thing everyone agrees about him is he lacks a clear ideology?

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      2 days ago

      It’s not as if the left was doing brilliantly during the Kinnock years. Or the Corbyn era.

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      parties can’t win elections in the UK anymore from a leftwing platform

      How would we know? Which party with more than a couple of percentage points of the vote has actually run an even slightly leftwing campaign since Blair and Brown? The only one I can think of is Corbyn, and he was sabotaged by his own MPs and the party apparatchiks who would (somewhat like the article) rather lose than allow anyone with even vaguely leftist policies to win.

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        2 days ago

        We can’t know for sure. My point was that logically they’d be following what their internal polling / researchers are telling them.

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          20 hours ago

          Yeah, I think it’s more that they want those fat donor cheques and are doing contortions with polling data to come up with the policies those donors want.