• hikaru755@lemmy.world
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      Okay but in that case, at least the ones you go on are different from the ones dropping bombs. You’re not enabling the bomb-dropping by getting on a plane

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        The airplanes that we go on are made by companies that also make the airplans that drop bombs.

        If I felt it would be morally correct to profit from death and war, I would have been dollar cost averaging Boeing back in 2020. But no, I’m just a working class guy.

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          Hey I’m not saying getting on planes is unproblematic. But nuance is still important. Having a ring camera is specifically and actively harmful, and not doing it immediately improves things. The impact that any individual or a small group of people can have is magnitudes higher than by not flying. Things can be different levels of bad and pretending they aren’t doesn’t help anyone

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            You are right in that a camera that a fascist regime utilizes to ethnically cleanse its population is more directly harmful at a per consumer level.

            However, you may be in denial if you think buying a plane ticket for a plane that is built by a defense war corporation, and submitting to facial and other biometric security checks by arms of the same fascist regime that buys weapons of war from the plane manufacture is not participating is some greater evil.

            So many modern technologies would be incredibly cool if they weren’t operated by untrustworthy people.

            The original comment above stands because it shows us how these cool, interesting, sometimes beautiful things can so easily be used for evil.

            I am reminded of Miyazaki lovingly using airplanes in his films while also using his films to advocate for peace and stating that he could never really reconcile that airplanes are actually tools of war which his father helped build during world war 2 in Japan and which he attributes to the untimely death of his mother, yet he still loves them and wants to show them in his films.

            But this is just one example of amazing technology being used for evil, I’m sure you could think of more.