I think you’re putting a lot of work going to bat for, and feeling contentious for people who are, and I say this a little respect, largely crazy.
The vast majority of people who feel the way you do, do not identify as anti-anything and just live their lives and either change their minds later or they don’t.
Anti-natalists are, as a self-identifying group, really bad lol. I’m sorry but they’re deeply stuck up their own ass, personally and as a human value system. Just do whatever for whatever reasons and don’t wear a uniform, once you do you end up doing really weird things.
Yeah, that sounds like someone seriously in need of mental healthcare. I guess I just haven’t seen all of these crazies you claim make up the entirety of the group. I honestly do believe that anyone who is still pro-natalist is either not thinking very clearly, or is likely to be part of the groups making it immoral to have a child, because it seems like a very simple logical conclusion. I just believe that such arguments are clearly superior to anything pro-natalists have offered, and so all that is necessary is to talk to people. Just put off having kids for a few years until you know whether irresponsibly risking creating a life of misery is right for you!
After swimming around all of this for way too long, I’m also entirely convinced that anyone who connects with or espouses pro-natalism is just hung up on some sexual kink. Almost strictly. And I know it’s hyperbolic but I’ve gone way harder and deeper trying to dismantle those weirdos than I have here, and it’s so deeply connected to the trad-wife cosplay kink thing and conservative-masked race-play fantasy that the entire online pro-natalist sphere is just a hookup app at this point.
Wholeheartedly agree, though I think that such a person could also simultaneously be trying to repress the rights of women, not just have a sex kink. It can be both things.
I think you’re putting a lot of work going to bat for, and feeling contentious for people who are, and I say this a little respect, largely crazy.
The vast majority of people who feel the way you do, do not identify as anti-anything and just live their lives and either change their minds later or they don’t.
Anti-natalists are, as a self-identifying group, really bad lol. I’m sorry but they’re deeply stuck up their own ass, personally and as a human value system. Just do whatever for whatever reasons and don’t wear a uniform, once you do you end up doing really weird things.
Yeah, that sounds like someone seriously in need of mental healthcare. I guess I just haven’t seen all of these crazies you claim make up the entirety of the group. I honestly do believe that anyone who is still pro-natalist is either not thinking very clearly, or is likely to be part of the groups making it immoral to have a child, because it seems like a very simple logical conclusion. I just believe that such arguments are clearly superior to anything pro-natalists have offered, and so all that is necessary is to talk to people. Just put off having kids for a few years until you know whether irresponsibly risking creating a life of misery is right for you!
After swimming around all of this for way too long, I’m also entirely convinced that anyone who connects with or espouses pro-natalism is just hung up on some sexual kink. Almost strictly. And I know it’s hyperbolic but I’ve gone way harder and deeper trying to dismantle those weirdos than I have here, and it’s so deeply connected to the trad-wife cosplay kink thing and conservative-masked race-play fantasy that the entire online pro-natalist sphere is just a hookup app at this point.
Wholeheartedly agree, though I think that such a person could also simultaneously be trying to repress the rights of women, not just have a sex kink. It can be both things.