Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) demanded federal officers vacate the state after agents shot and killed a second person in Minneapolis on Saturday. “Donald Trump, I call on you once again: Remove…
Wonder if it would work to declare a state of emergency and mobilize the MN national guard to safeguard civilians? If they are already deployed can the president deploy them?
Unfortunately, Democrats have done nothing to build any forces loyal to democracy. They supported racist and violent cops that are loyal to Republicans, and those cops almost certainly won’t follow orders to arrest ICE agents. If anything they’re just going to collaborate, like they already have despite it technically being illegal. National Guard might be better, maybe, but they’re probably just going to help ICE suppress the protestors.
The big myth that nobody analyzes nor tries to dispel in politics is that police (of any type) operate under democratic control.
They never have, and until qualified immunity is eliminated, they never will.
Elected officials (outside of the president…or hey, wait a second, couldn’t Walz pardon himself for state crimes?!) do not have such an immunity. So, the “orders” that the elected officials give police are basically suggestions, and that is how they receive and follow (or don’t follow) them.
Police in US is pretty much an organized crime group. If a politician threatens their status they all will simply go on strike. Reminds of when de Blasio supported protests against police killings and every cop turned his back on him during his speech.
he knows trump wants to declare martial law. and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call. everyone’s waiting for someone to step up and show some leadership against fascism, and if it ever happens, it’s definitely not going to be someone in public office
to make it look like there’s someone in charge who gives a rat’s ass about you. that’s usually fine–but not when a fascist con man rapist sack of shit is president. it doesn’t matter how many innocent citizens are murdered–walz will do nothing beyond complaining about it
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and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call.
Yes, [REDACTED] brought up the Hortman assassination a propos of nothing on social media, and within 12 hours, Walz dropped out of the governor’s race quite unexpectedly. That was my first thought, that the regime has made its threat clear to him.
I mean on the other hand, Trump kind of does want violent resistance to spring up so provide the Reichstag burning he’s been waiting for to amplify the cracking down. I mean, they kinda already had the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of already can institute martial law whenever (it’s not constitutional but neither has been a single thing he’s done lately), and martial law won’t really lead to anything on its own anyway… I dunno, let’s keep resisting in effective ways. One idea is to make ICE’s life hell so they loathe their jobs and go home.
If we really honestly can’t figure out a better plan than to get our little glocks and go plink at em, then okay. But we’d have to be a whole lot dumber than I think we are.
If the money is corrupting all players and steering the agenda, why not go after it? When we strike directly at agents of force, then we are directly attacking family and friends of a multitude of others, including of folks that may be trying to reconcile things. It will rile up his base into murder frenzy. Many undecided (dummies) will get swept up in the frenzy, because they’ll defer thinking to others around them. The rabid base have few relationships with their oligarch masters.
Lobotomize their think tanks.
Cut out the tongues of their media propagandists.
Bring any and all levels of direct action against the class that is causing this.
Everyone here is so up their own butt about how it’s all corrupt and everything’s over man (after shitting on Harris for five months straight) but that’s the right way to do it.
If you just need to murder some brownshirts and want to take the consequences, then that’s always an option. It’s just not the best option. It’s not even a good option.
Um, how many more need to get murdered by the government before you come up with something even the slightest bit more effective than “sit on our asses and keep getting murdered”?
We’re long past the third box of liberty, which (barring whatever incredible plan you’re working on) leaves us with either the fourth box, or just accept people being murdered.
Oooh genius! So! What’s the plan? Protest march? Cop-killing? Wait how about some kind of national political presence! Y’know to run things after all the protest killing succeeds in stopping the - all the bad stuff.
For Christ sake shut the fuck up about Harris already. People are dying, democrats don’t do jack shit unless it is to help THE MURDERERS and y’all are still butting in everywhere to throw a tantrum.
Maybe if he says it enough times they’ll leave. Or maybe he should enforce the law in his state.
Wonder if it would work to declare a state of emergency and mobilize the MN national guard to safeguard civilians? If they are already deployed can the president deploy them?
They’ve already been mobilized. They’re guarding the Whipple Concentration Camp.
Got downvoted for claiming all he and other democrats were going to do was angrily Tweet.
They angrily Tweeted and made phone calls.
How surprising.
Unfortunately, Democrats have done nothing to build any forces loyal to democracy. They supported racist and violent cops that are loyal to Republicans, and those cops almost certainly won’t follow orders to arrest ICE agents. If anything they’re just going to collaborate, like they already have despite it technically being illegal. National Guard might be better, maybe, but they’re probably just going to help ICE suppress the protestors.
Who would he call upon to enforce the law?
The big myth that nobody analyzes nor tries to dispel in politics is that police (of any type) operate under democratic control.
They never have, and until qualified immunity is eliminated, they never will.
Elected officials (outside of the president…or hey, wait a second, couldn’t Walz pardon himself for state crimes?!) do not have such an immunity. So, the “orders” that the elected officials give police are basically suggestions, and that is how they receive and follow (or don’t follow) them.
Police in US is pretty much an organized crime group. If a politician threatens their status they all will simply go on strike. Reminds of when de Blasio supported protests against police killings and every cop turned his back on him during his speech.
If the police go on strike, our problems are solved. The police doing nothing is the best case scenario.
He needs to click his heels three times first. That’s why it’s not working.
he knows trump wants to declare martial law. and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call. everyone’s waiting for someone to step up and show some leadership against fascism, and if it ever happens, it’s definitely not going to be someone in public office
Then what the fuck is this guy even for?
to make it look like there’s someone in charge who gives a rat’s ass about you. that’s usually fine–but not when a fascist con man rapist sack of shit is president. it doesn’t matter how many innocent citizens are murdered–walz will do nothing beyond complaining about it .
Yes, [REDACTED] brought up the Hortman assassination a propos of nothing on social media, and within 12 hours, Walz dropped out of the governor’s race quite unexpectedly. That was my first thought, that the regime has made its threat clear to him.
We have a federal government that is using mob/cartel tactics to terrorize people into submission.
This is not okay.
I’ll take no shit for five dollars, Alex
What is constipation, Trebek?
Haha that’s awesome
I think he should never have run. It would have been an unprecedented 3rd term.
These people literally ran for office specifically to represent the people. They shouldn’t be shy about putting things on the line
We’re kinda at the do nothing and be murdered or do something and then maybe get killed for it stage.
Starting to seem like trying is the better option
I mean on the other hand, Trump kind of does want violent resistance to spring up so provide the Reichstag burning he’s been waiting for to amplify the cracking down. I mean, they kinda already had the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of already can institute martial law whenever (it’s not constitutional but neither has been a single thing he’s done lately), and martial law won’t really lead to anything on its own anyway… I dunno, let’s keep resisting in effective ways. One idea is to make ICE’s life hell so they loathe their jobs and go home.
I’ve got a better idea, go to one of the net worth websites, take your pick and make some real change happen.
Buy a weapon before they close that pipeline.
Sometimes it’s better to die on your feet rather than your knees.
If we really honestly can’t figure out a better plan than to get our little glocks and go plink at em, then okay. But we’d have to be a whole lot dumber than I think we are.
No, you’re right. We’re being brigaded. A lot of accounts popping up out of nowhere with faulty – to be generous – knowledge of the US.
The Vietnamese did it and they were trapped in a cave with a bunch of scrap metal.
The Vietnamese were bad ass. But they didn’t have to fight facebook.
If the money is corrupting all players and steering the agenda, why not go after it? When we strike directly at agents of force, then we are directly attacking family and friends of a multitude of others, including of folks that may be trying to reconcile things. It will rile up his base into murder frenzy. Many undecided (dummies) will get swept up in the frenzy, because they’ll defer thinking to others around them. The rabid base have few relationships with their oligarch masters.
Lobotomize their think tanks.
Cut out the tongues of their media propagandists.
Bring any and all levels of direct action against the class that is causing this.
Plinking at them with our little glocks worked for 20 years in the Middle East.
Don’t ever underestimate will.
Pretty sure they were plinking with AKs and RPGs
Small arms is small arms
I’m all ears on how your going to reason with might makes right peole to give up their power
Um, elections and proper application of the law.
Everyone here is so up their own butt about how it’s all corrupt and everything’s over man (after shitting on Harris for five months straight) but that’s the right way to do it.
If you just need to murder some brownshirts and want to take the consequences, then that’s always an option. It’s just not the best option. It’s not even a good option.
Um, how many more need to get murdered by the government before you come up with something even the slightest bit more effective than “sit on our asses and keep getting murdered”?
We’re long past the third box of liberty, which (barring whatever incredible plan you’re working on) leaves us with either the fourth box, or just accept people being murdered.
I’m angry too, Chief.
So what we’ve been doing for decades is your answer
You misspelled “hundreds of years”
You say you got a new solution? Well, y’know - we’d all love to see the plan.
The elections they’re talking about canceling and the rule of law that they are completely ignoring.
So while you’re waiting for that to work the rest of us need to figure out how to actually get something done.
Oooh genius! So! What’s the plan? Protest march? Cop-killing? Wait how about some kind of national political presence! Y’know to run things after all the protest killing succeeds in stopping the - all the bad stuff.
We should put, like, a logo together. And a list of demands! Oohh! And a domain name! Howabout militantleftistsforthepeople.com? Or icyhotstuntaz.com?
For Christ sake shut the fuck up about Harris already. People are dying, democrats don’t do jack shit unless it is to help THE MURDERERS and y’all are still butting in everywhere to throw a tantrum.
It’s like you’re grasping the wrong end of the stick and beating around the bush with it. Amazing.
You got what you did not vote against.
Talk the talk.