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      Oh they did innovate alright. The Ecoboost engine was an innovation. A surprising amount of power from a small lightweight engine. The Powershift transmission was an innovative transmission and was quite efficient.

      Unfortunately those innovations sucked ass. The Ecoboost engines kept destroying themselves because the timing belts soaked in hot engine oil kept disintegrating. The Powershift transmission was such a terribly broken piece of machinery that even the engineers who designed it told corporate that it was crap and should not be used.

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      “We make heavier SUVs every year to avoid having to improve fuel economy. So many large SUVs has led to people getting SUVs so they can be seen by other SUVs. Isn’t this an infinite money printer?” - them

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      15 hours ago

      Not innovating would at least be more excusable if they just did the non innovated stuff well.

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    It’s almoast like they keep investing on bigger and bigger cars, instead of what the people want.

    That’s how I feel about Canada allowing chinese car makers: if the Chinese EVs will serve the market out local companies repeatedly have failed to serve, then bring em in.

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    Toyota builds in the U.S. but their factories aren’t unionized, as they should be. While that saves them money, the quality of their cars is so much better, they can still charge more than U.S. manufacturers and beat them. If U.S. manufacturers competed on quality, they’d do just as well, even if that meant they had to charge more than Toyota and the others. I feel like they’ve fallen so far behind through many, many poor choices, they can’t catch up. But, instead of blaming themselves, they blame unions.

    My dad bought his first Honda Civic in 1972 as a commuter car for his 45-minute commute into San Francisco. After that, Honda Civic was the only car he bought. He didn’t care that they got more expensive over the years, he cared that he didn’t need to take it to the shop every year.

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    I remember my father insisting on buying American brands for decades because he believed they were higher quality, only for him to get lemon after lemon after lemon.

    I managed to crash the only decent American car we had, which was a Buick. Otherwise it was multiple Fords, Chevrolet, Cadillac, all constantly needing to be in the shop.

    When my sister and I got our first cars, we didn’t have any good impressions of American car companies and both bought used Japanese because they were a lot cheaper. And then, had zero problems.

    The next car my dad bought was a Subaru.

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      I had a lemon of a civic too. I had to sell it after 11 years, because it would have required maintenance

      Meanwhile my ten year old Subaru is like new. While it did require maintenance, that was mostly covered by subaru

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      Not as big as this CRO bonuses tho! You have to be paid tons to ignore so many of your customers, ha joking. They love ignoring customers.

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      Generally speaking most people didn’t buy American cars in Europe 20 years ago either. While Ford did sell pretty well, it was with cars like the focus, mondeo, fiesta etc., which were manufactured in Europe and designed for the international market.

      As it happens though, people still buy SUVs that are too big for European streets in Europe anyway…

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    I had a Ford Focus, a Pontiac, and Buick (GM) and the overall experience was horrible from dealing with the dealer to getting maintenance because the dashboard would light up like a Christmas tree more often than it should. Then I bought a Toyota and the difference was immediately noticeable even a blind person could see it.

    No wonder those three automakers’ market share is dropping.

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      I miss my focus hatchback though, that was 20 years ago so the graph is still valid. But eventually found that owning a Toyota meant not being on a first-name basis with my insurance call center.

      I mostly decide my cars by what’s up on WRC.

      Sadly I never got my Lancia Stratos (then again I wouldn’t get anything own by Stellantis).

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    Its like people dont want to spend $90k on a truck designed to last only 10 years.

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    This is global market share. In it there’s the rise of Korean and Chinese automotive manufacturing.

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    Too big to fail bailouts with tax payers dollars got the average consumer a worse experience.

    Fuck American ingenuity. It’s garbage.