Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has been blocked from standing as a candidate in the Gorton and Denton by-election by Labour's national executive committee. The…

Much as I want someone to replace Starmer, this decision is not a big surprise, really. Aside from Starmer’s desire for self-preservation, Burnham becoming an MP would have forced a mayoral by-election in Manchester which Labour might well have lost (on current polling, Reform had a slight edge). Burnham had a chance to run as an MP in 2024 without causing that problem and decided not to, so it’s hard to feel too sorry for him.

  • Zombie@feddit.uk
    11·
    17 hours ago

    You’ve responded to plenty of my comments with vitriol before so I don’t understand the beginning of your comment at all.

    The PLP is a part of the NEC. There were PLP members who voted.

    The PLP is the part of the party that consistently shows itself to be against Labour’s values. I said the PLP to distinguish it from the rest of the Labour movement.

    My views are as valid as anyone’s. I understand now why we’ve clashed before. I thought you were a leftist stuck on the hope of the Labour party because that’s what you’ve always known. But as you’re trying to dismiss my opinions as if you’re an authority figure, I see now I was wrong and you’re right at home under Keir’s authoritarians.

      • Zombie@feddit.uk
        2·
        16 hours ago

        The National Executive Committee (NEC) is the governing body of the UK Labour Party, setting the overall strategic direction of the party and policy development. Its composition has changed over the years, and includes representatives of … the Parliamentary Labour Party

        NEC Officers

        As of October 2025, the Officers of the NEC are:[8]

        • Leader of the Labour Party: Keir Starmer MP
        • Deputy Leader of the Labour Party: Lucy Powell MP
        • Chair of the National Executive Committee: Shabana Mahmood MP
        • Vice-Chair of the National Executive Committee: Cllr Peter Wheeler
        • Treasurer: Mike Payne
        • Chair of Organisation Committee: Peter Mason
        • Chair of the Equalities Committee: Ann Black
        • Chair of the Disputes Panel: Gurinder Singh Josan MP
        • Chair of the National Policy Forum (when a member of the NEC): Ellie Reeves MP
        • Chair of the Labour Party: Anna Turley MP

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Executive_Committee_of_the_Labour_Party_(UK)

        Every one with an MP next to their name is in the PLP…

        • frankPodmore@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
          1·
          14 hours ago

          Yes, it includes representatives of the PLP. This is not the same thing as the PLP being part of the NEC.

          • Zombie@feddit.uk
            1·
            13 hours ago

            An entity like the NEC or PLP doesn’t exist without its members. It’s not an ethereal being.

            Like, that’s how all groups of humans work. We give the group a name for ease of communication, but the group is the sum of its parts.

            If half of the NEC’s officer roles are made of PLP members then the PLP is probably a part of the NEC. Add in that they’re only there explicitly because of their membership of the PLP then it’s fair to say that the PLP is part of the NEC.

            You do realise what an officer is in most organisational structures, right?

            • frankPodmore@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
              1·
              12 hours ago

              It’s not ‘fair’ to say that it’s part of the NEC, because it isn’t. They’re separate organisations.

                • frankPodmore@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
                  1·
                  12 hours ago

                  A member of the PLP might be a part of the NEC, yes. This is not the same thing as the PLP, being part of the NEC (obviously).

                  For example, if you asked John McDonnell if he was a member of the PLP, he would say yes. If you asked him if he was a member of the NEC, he would say no. This is because the PLP is not part of the NEC.