Whatever it takes to distract from the Epstein files sir!
What
Buy our fighters jets or we invade with fighter jets ?
What absolute fuck is wrong with this country
Nobody reads.
No, I definitely read.
Canada doesn’t want to pay for the massive cost overruns. The US said “fine, but we’ll have to shore up the NORAD system by sending OUR fighters into YOUR airspace as necessary.” If there is no agreement as to how that occurs and the US does it anyway, that is an invasion. Quite literally.
Part of NORAD already allows both Canada and the US to enter each other’s airspace in the interest of dealing with threats. This is an existing negotiation.
What the ambassador is stating is that if Canada does decide to backtrack on the program (which full disclosure I agree with because they failed to meet their deadline and the cost overrun is through the roof), In order to “prevent gaps”, they would increase their f35 presence Which is also why they referenced that they would need to alter the current NORAD plan.
This is a quote from one of the sources that the article uses for its claims.
“NORAD would have to be altered,” U.S. Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra told CBC News in an exclusive interview at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. He says the United States would likely need to purchase more of the advanced fighter aircraft for its own air force, and would fly them more often into Canadian airspace to address threats approaching the U.S. “If Canada is no longer going to provide that [capability], then we have to fill those gaps,” said Hoekstra.
The Posted article cherry-picks the hell out of its sources to try and make a mountain out of a mole hill.
The entire article could be summarized with “US ambassador states that if Canada backs out of F-35 deal, US will need to increase resources to fill the gap” But instead of doing so, the author decided to make a title that makes it indicate that the US ambassador is threatening to invade Canada over it. Disingenuous reporting.
That’s technically a declaration of war, right?
Not even close.
They’re suggesting that Canada won’t be able to defend its own airspace so US will have to be able to operate more freely in Canadian than they already do. They are saying that the NORAD agreement would need to be updated to accommodate this.
Pretty sure that is the exact explanation that Russia uses when it violates Finnish and Swedish airspace.
And neither Finland nor Sweden are at war with Russia. Bullshit scare tactic used by fucking putin yes, but it’s not itself an act of war. At least, it isn’t generally treated as such.
You seem to be applying a pretty strict definition to what is actually an arbitrary term. An act of war can be anything that any nation wants to call an act of war.
So I guess we should probably just use some of the countries involved in the real life case we are talking about.
Does anyone consider violation of airspace by a nations warplanes to be in-and-of-itself an act of war or at least a proactive action worthy of escalation and retaliation? Oh yeah, the United States does. And so does Russia.
I’m not applying a strict standard, I’m using the two examples you gave to illustrate my point that it’s much more complex than they thought. Finland and Sweden aren’t at war so no, at least in those two cases its not a declaration of war.
Just kinda decided to pretend we were talking about “declarations of war” now? I can see you are either not interested in having a grown up discussion or you’re genuinely unable to have one.
That’s the whole subject being discussed. Here’s the OP comment we’re all replying to:
Where they ask if this is a declaration of war. Not sure how that’s pretending anything.
NORAD already has shared skies provisions. US jets can fly into our airspace as needed to intercept foreign attackers. We can do the same with them.
None of this constitutes a threat, despite Hoekstra’s weird, fumbling attempt to deliver it like one.
He basically said “If you don’t give us your business, we’ll have no choice but to protect your airspace even harder!” Oh, wow, scary. No, please, don’t do that.
Still think he’s sane?
Yes, most Republicans still think he’s sane.
Because they themselves are not. Nihilism is not a sane outlook
I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Do it yourself or better yet, you can focus on protecting you and yours instead.
In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.
Owning a gun isn’t enough. Driving to Cabela’s and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.
I am not advocating for violence…far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.
PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors or active hearing protection. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. At the bare minimum, make sure you have quality active hearing protection.
Based
Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect.
Especially handguns. As a kid I’d shot lots of rifles including some beautiful .22s and the latter weren’t very loud. As an adult I picked up a .22 pistol and figured I’d go out in the woods and plink a little w/it. First shot … holy hell, WTF was that?? Yeah I got my hearing back but I’ve never pulled a trigger again w/o ear protection.
“Give us money or we will attack you” is generally not something you say to an ally you want to keep. Trump is literally insane, trying to start WW3.
It’s extortion, the only thing trump knows…
In his narcissistic mind, everyone else is just there for him to exploit. He literally can not comprehend any other way to do things.
I think they won’t.
Fuck you, Taco!
Thanks for this. Was scrolling through the comments looking for a reply I could get behind.
This is just…bonkers.
I mean it’s always been like this basically.
But less publiclyYou know, like you do to allies when the commander in chief isn’t a Russian asset.
Buy our fighter jets or we’ll send you fighter jets
Sounds like free delivery.
For free(dom)
This is just robbery, we weren’t able to make our schedule and modified the price. “$27.7 billion in cost – up from its initial $19 billion.”
Yet expect them to just give us $7 billion dollars because we failed to meet the contract?
Duh. That’s how extortion works.
You think the mob ever delivered anything on time and under budget?
Now I want a short story where the Mob accidentally hires the most effective project manager ever
There’s actually an anime where a corporate worker gets summoned into another world because they need him to use his efficiency to get their shit together.
It’s called “Headhunted to Another World: From Salaryman to Big Four!”, and it’s pretty good.
This is how the mafia works. Its the only business trump knows.
Stupid motherfuckers haven’t learned anything from the past year. They actually think they can just bully and harass everyone into submission. They’re losing more and more influence every day.
