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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    There is some evidence of each

    No there isn’t. Show me evidence that “immigrants are out to get you” in the US.

    • ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca
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      6 days ago

      My wages are suppressed due to the union being busted/weakened due to the prevalence of illegal immigrants in my industry. The illegals are not building the community, they are building their community. I more blame the billionaires for creating conditions for this, but many of my coworkers are very racist and feel like it is justified.

      • 7toed@midwest.social
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        6 days ago

        The illegals are not building the community, they are building their community.

        ME ME ME ME ME

        racist and feel like it is justified.

        Yeah centrist my ass. You had a purpose pretending in 2016, why don’t you just go put on your mask and breaking into your neighbors homes already since it aint your white community.

        • ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca
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          6 days ago

          The first assumption in every social contract is self-interest. The second is that putting forth effort is adverse (you don’t like it). The rest of the social contract is normally about how to get effort with a mix of motivations that start with self interest. Altruism is not the basis of a social contract. When you started with “ME ME ME ME ME”, I think you were mocking the rational thought of individuals in a community. I’m not saying you are wrong, but the act of mocking is the very divisive behavior that I wish never became the primary way of communicating about political issues.

          If a person is surrounded by racists and is raised by rascists then decides to be less racist when they leave the community they grew up in, does that make the person who is objectively at least somewhat racist not worth anything? I feel like you are trying to dismiss me and where-I-am-at out of hand because my current industry and community is leaning racist. I think you have specifically called me “purposely pretending” and really a kkk member at home? No to all of the above, and I think you are being really divisive as you do it. This pattern of behavior (mocking, divisive, and dismissive of nuance and context) is why we cannot have “wisdom of crowds” because there are no “third places” where a rational discussion about needs, perspectives, and solutions can be had.

          People are less antagonistic if we could gather “freedom of assembly” and not get doxxed. I am currently building a community as best as i can. I also respect anyone who “votes with their feet” by moving from a bad spot into a better spot (some of the illegals I have met seem to be hardworking and just trying to give their family a better life). The more information i give, the more likely you or someone else will doxx me, so ill leave it at that. I do lean toward “privacy is a key ingredient to free speech”.

          Good day.

          • 7toed@midwest.social
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            5 days ago

            Why dont you follow some of the scriptures you tout? Maybe there’s something you’ve missed.