After immigrants are detained by ICE, there are probably records somewhere of who has an attorney, and who is calling family members or an attorney.

For the immigrants who aren’t calling any family or lawyers, the poorest of the poor, people with little to no connection to anyone, who may not even say which country they are from, if the administration were actually trying to kill as many disconnected immigrants as possible in secret, would society know?

For example, if the administration was composed of all types of conservative people, but 30 percent were secretly Nazis or wanted racial genocide, could there be a campaign to not just remove, but kill, immigrants, and the public doesn’t find out?

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    Minsk was invaded by the Germans in 1941 and then re-invaded by the Soviets in 1944 with large bombing campaigns on both sides. Literally 85% of the city was flattened during the war with about 90,000 civilian casualties and close to half a million military casualties during that period, and that doesn’t even count the people killed by the Nazis in the ghetto.

    Sounds like your grandmother is either telling stories or she was a tourist that didn’t spend much time there.

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    Here is a map where you can see that the ghetto and camps represented like half the entire city and all the German military buildings are within one or two city blocks of it. They make this information readily available specifically because of people like your grandmother who pretended this shit didn’t happen the way it did:

    https://www.jchb.org/neveragain-minsk-ghetto-map/

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      But she did not pretend it didn’t happen. Where are you getting that from? She just never saw it, or at least the full extent. She did see starved prisoners. She saw the furniture at the opera. Just because the killings happened in a part of the city she wasn’t allowed to visit doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

      And propaganda was trying their darnedest to keep it that way for most people. Even high ranking officers were boasting about how they were just about to beat the Sowjets the day before they retook the city.

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          Whelp, guess that means we can be sure to find out about mass killings in El Salvador or Alligator Alcatraz or wherever right away because it will be so obvious.