• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
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    Even the upper middle class are master networkers, hooking each other up and triangulating via clubs, the old boys network and good old fashioned nepotism. When they attack unions they’ll say it’s because they corrupts the purity of the market and free competition and shite like that, but really it’s because game recognise game.

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    Its kinda funny that Melania is in that photo of past presidents and first ladies but not Donald.

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      LGBT+ people in general, as well as POC. The problem is that the people most likely to for this hatred are aligned with the wealthy, elite whether they know it or not. So we have to fight them to get to their masters.

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        Not LGBT+ people in general. The LGB were too happy to throw queer people under the bus and they aren’t bearing the brunt of the hate.

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          queers are closer aligned with the identities that they descend from (especially so w white ones) than they are with each other; that’s why grindr keeps crashing from overload every time there’s a conservative convention somewhere.

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            Don’t bring race into this. I dealt with a fuckton of harassment and threats from cis people despite being white passing and no, the people doing it weren’t all white.

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              race is probably the most powerful cudgel in the ruling class’ arsenal and is always there whether you chose to acknowledge it or not; willfully ignoring it will guarantee your own peril.

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                This is about trans people and ALL trans people struggle. ALL queer people struggle. Even if they were the whitest people on the planet. So keep the racist bullshit out of this.

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                  that “racist bullshit” is literally culture war ground zero that keep us fighting each other instead of the ruling class.

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                  I’m trans and white passing too, I’m sorry for your bad experiences, I’ve had plenty too. I just wanted to say that there’s a very real issue with white LGBT+ people aligning themselves with their whiteness more than their queerness, especially for cis people, but even trans folks (see people like Contrapoints). So for systemic issues you do see a divide that we shouldn’t ignore.

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    Warren Buffett has argued for rich people paying higher taxes for years, so I’m not sure he is the best example for this meme.

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      Taxes are not going to abolish the conditions that allow for the exploitation of labor.

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      He’s still a billionaire, no one becomes a billionaire working 9-5 everyday like a common person. Remember, every cent of profit is an unrealized cent of worker’s wages.

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          I apologize then, it’s just that it’s a common talking point to say someone like Buffett isn’t as bad because of paying taxes or similar. Typically by neo-liberal types as justification that there are “good billionaires.”

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      He operates like any other big capitalist though, even if he paid higher taxes he’d still benefit from the exploitation of workers and rent extraction, etc. This is a brilliant PR move by him, not a show of not being aligned with his class. Hell, he said he’d donate his wealth to charity on his death, but you know which charity he picked?

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        You say it’s a great PR move from him, but last I checked he has “fuck you” money so I’m not sure I buy that. If he doesn’t mean it there would be no real benefit for him to say it. I don’t think he cares that I just said he’s less bad than those others pictured.

        you know which charity he picked?

        No idea.

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          You bringing it up like a positive points to it being excellent PR. If he seriously didn’t like benefiting from acting like a capitalist he’d just… stop.

          He picked the Gates Foundation. Bill Gates is in the files and was a friend of Epstein.

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            Alright. Yeah, no one is saying billionaires can be great.

            I was just pointing out he’s clearly advocated against his own class, much contradicting his inclusion in this meme. Whether it was “excellent PR” or not doesn’t really matter, considering he could have easily not advocated for taxing himself more and either way it actually has no real impact on his life. Especially if you believe there’s nothing to him besides a cynical greedy monster.

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              I’d argue advocating for taxation isn’t really threatening to his own class. He’d be a class traitor if he advocated for workers’ democracy, better working rights, stronger unions, no exploitation of foreign workers, etc.

              The issue isn’t that taxes are too low for the rich (even though they are), the issue is that they exploit us (both domestically and internationally) and get richer from owning rather than working, and that anything that we do to challenge this arrangement can get us killed.

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                Ok great. He is the typical billionaire and there is no gradation. Everything is binary.

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                  You guys always do the thing that frustrated 13 year olds do when you’re argued with, where you throw up your hands and go “ugh, fine, sure, (insert strawman here), are you happy?”

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                  Not what I said. I argued he’s not a class traitor, which is factually true. I also elaborated why. I’m uninterested in making moral judgements on billionaires.