• Tinidril@midwest.social
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      4 days ago

      In her own Democratic establishment way anyways. Just in case you are unaware, I was referring to a Hillary quote, “when they go low, we go high”.

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        4 days ago

        Oh yeah I remember, that and the “Deplorables” comment which should show you how committed she was to, “going high”

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          4 days ago

          If the deplorables comment was the second biggest misstep of her campaign, backing down from it was the biggest. The comment was valid in it’s full context, even though it was politically tone-deaf. A large chunk of Trump supporters really are deplorable. Backing down or “going high” is what made it into such a massive vulnerability.

          As an aside, Democrats have a lot to answer for in how we got to a culture that generates so many deplorable people.

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            Her entire campaign was tone deaf, it doesn’t matter if she “went low” or “went high” she fundamentally did not speak about what average people were struggling with in a realistic way, and her solutions were just “status quo”. It’s why Bernie Sanders did so well with younger folks by comparison.

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                  3 days ago

                  Hillary didn’t lose by being out of touch, she lost by appearing out of touch. The fact that she is out of touch was only one contributor to her appearance. Appearing more genuine than you are is a pretty basic skill for a politician.

                  Hillary backing down from “going low” was a big part of why she didn’t come off as genuine. People can connect with calling deplorable people out. Calling them out then backing off to a political safe space just made it clear how out of touch she was.

                  Gavin Newsom is every bit as out of touch as Hillary - if not more, but look at all the positive attention he gets by playing the bad boy on xitter. Then he extended the olive branch to be “inclusive” of right wing voices, and his hypocrisy became evident to even liberal “centrists”.

                  Any actually genuine candidate could never play nice with far right bigots. Being genuine today means not pulling punches as a bare minimum.