• hector@lemmy.today
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    8 days ago

    Dangerous? Wtf. So is driving, walking. What a joke, whom put the mayor of houston up to this? I would like to know the thought process behind this, I would’ve thought city leaders would be progressive, this is the opposite of that.

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      8 days ago

      It’s dangerous for a given definition of dangerous. Driving is dangerous for a different definition of dangerous.

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    9 days ago

    Ahh, one of those websites that continually redraws the content to try to display more ads

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    Lett’s pretend these aren’t the tool of choice of dealers and just get angry at the man.

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    Reading the Houston city council discussion, it looks like they intend to curfew standup (platform) e-scooters. But the ordinance uses the term “micromobility device”, which is not really a legal definition of anything, and could include lots of things (even 50cc scooters). Hopefully the ordinance could be amended to clarify.

    Since the vast majority of these will be app-rented e-scooters (ERYD/Lime), and those companies already operate under franchise agreements with the city, it seems like the easier path would be to put hours-of-operation limits on the rental companies.

    Not that I think limiting e-scooters is a good idea, either.

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      9 days ago

      That’s ok, I’m sure anyone using them for transportation can easily use Houston’s excellent subway, right?

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      The sad thing is, these big cities are heavy democrat. This is one of “our” guys.

      My best bet, drivers rage about them like they do bicyclists, not following traffic laws, holding up traffic driving in it, demanding drivers don’t hit them, and the mayor is playing to that road rage, while also scapegoating them for crime, as if cars aren’t more guilty of any crime allegations.

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      8 days ago

      Another excuse to raise money by tax farming the poor, otherizing some group as undesirables then targeting them with draconian fines, seizures, and criminal charges.

      The way policing is done in this country has to change, and first in our blue cities. It does nothing for public safety using the police to raise money, if anything it detracts from it. We shouldn’t allow this behavior, if city leaders want to raise money they need to do it through taxes where we can collectively agree on a more fair framework for it, rather than stealing it from the vulnerable.

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    10 days ago

    Given how many lanes Houston’s highways already have I’m starting to wonder if the cars are the ones in charge there.

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    I wonder if there’s a racial or class component here. Can’t have the poors or the DEIs getting around. /s

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      The thing is, they want poor people to have cars. Sure, they can’t reasonably afford them, but they have to have them, so they take a loan and are stuck repaying it. This means they can’t quit their jobs or do anything that could hurt their income. The banks also get to make extra income off of the loan.

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      I don’t know what it’s like in Houston and I know it’s known for being car centric but where I live the Uber eats / door dash / whatever economy basically runs on those ebikes.

      You can also guess the type of person riding them.

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    10 days ago

    Iowa just tried to pass a bill that would ban all bicycles - not just e-bikes - from any road that has a speed limit over 25 mph (public response was loud and immediate so they scrapped it).

    We’re going to see more of these.

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      Just to help show how stupid of an idea it is (and how little the republicans in charge think about anything) it would have banned ragbrai.

      https://ragbrai.com/

      RAGBRAI, The Register’s Annual Great Bicycle Ride Across Iowa, is an annual seven-day bicycle ride across the state from July 18-25, 2026. RAGBRAI is the oldest, largest, and longest recreational bicycle touring event in the world.

      This rolling celebration of Iowa attracts participants from all 50 states and many foreign countries. It has covered thousands of miles through the years, and hundreds of thousands of riders have hopped in the saddle to pedal part of those miles.

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        Fortunately, the ragbrai issue really helped boost visibility/outage, but yeah. I can’t help but wonder if the people who penned this thing knew that going in, or are truly so incompetent they didn’t consider it as a consequence.

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          They hate bicyclists, they are playing to the road raging bike haters. You can see it on a lot of subs on reddit, including the dash cam ones, at best there are two warring camps but the bike haters are usually more numerous and aggressive.

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          They are the same ones surprised no one wants to go to the institute of freedom they forced one of the universities to implement

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      If there was an extensive bike network instead of John Forster bullshit vehicular cycling, it would make a lot of sense.

      But Iowa doesn’t have bicycle infrastructure.

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        My city alone has over 150 miles of bike trail. Compared to other rural US states (it’s an admittedly low bar) our bike infrastructure is actually pretty good, and the statewide biking community is extremely involved and active. It’s one of the few things keeping me here.

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    I don’t know what it’s like in Houston but here in Toronto the entire food delivery industry would pretty much come to a stand still without e-bikes. do they kill people? no. are they dangerous? I’m sorry but with the way some of those dudes drive those things on sidewalks and the amount of times i’ve seen them hit people…yeah. We’ve also had a few literally blow up on commuter trains to the point where we out right banned them on trains.

    There’s more to this that I don’t think people realize. no they don’t kill people but yes they do cause accidents because of the people driving them and feeling like they can ride them on sidewalks or…you know…the batteries will randomly explode.

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      Isn’t that more of a problem with delivery services though? We don’t have e-bikes here. Delivery drivers ride motorcycles. They still ride on sidewalks, filter between everything and run red lights. From what I understand this happens in places that use normal bikes too. Banning e-bikes will only help with the battery issue.