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          Typical the devil made me do it bullshit . So Aipac has too much influence on politics so it is ok for Harris and Biden to support Israel and it’s genocidal campaign but at the same time it is not ok for Trump to support Israel because aipac has too much influence on American politics . The idea that you can’t win if you oppose Israel is just an illusion. Mamdani show that it is just a myth

          I don’t give a damn about your trashy excuses. If you gives money to a genocidal state you are pro genocide simple as that and if you support candidates that support a genocidal state you are also pro genocide whatever it is trump, Harris or Trump

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            Mamdani won in the bluest of blue states. This doesn’t work on a nation wide level. We verified this by watching progressives lose elsewhere.

            I know you don’t give a damn about the reasons progressives continue to lose nationwide elections. Because you don’t actually want to change things.

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              Mamdani won in the bluest of blue states

              Completely irrelevant he won against aipac pro genocide candidates .

              I know you don’t give a damn about the reasons progressives continue to lose nationwide elections. Because you don’t actually want to change things.

              Learn to read. I didn’t say I don’t give a damn about the reasons why progressists loses. I said I don’t give a damn about anybody excuses when it comes to support Israel and it’s genocide. I was wrong about no progressist being pro genocide so I called the person you mentioned a genocide support.

              I am consistent. I don’t give a damn about anybody excuses whatever it is progressists, democrats , republicans , leftists and all those other labels when it comes to supporting the genocide

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                Then you will easily be tricked into letting Trump win and the genocide in Gaza will be maximized with no hope for change.

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                  You lost because of economy and borders it is a fact. Stop blaming anti genocide for your loss. Stop supporting genocide supporters and the destruction of Gaza.

                  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McK8bPR8pzU](Israel’s bitch Kamala own words)

                  She said the bound between the terrorist state of Israel and the united snakes is unbreakable. She said .

                  She promised a broad and bipartisan support for~~ Israel’s security and right to self-defense~~ (aka maintaining the settler colonialism project).

                  She expresses her support for Obama $38 billion military assistance package

                  She promised to fight anti-israel bias (anti genocide, occupation and settler colonialism ) at the UN

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                    Those were the biggest factors according to polls. But Harris only lost by a very small amount.

                    Of course she showed vague support for Israel. Progressives showed us it is political suicide to run an anti-Israel campaign. Unlike progressives, the democrats and GOP and anyone actually trying to win elections will avoid coming off as a threat until they are actually in a position of power.

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      Joe Biden flattened Gaza with his bombs. The IDF could not do anything like that by themselves. Gavin Newsom supports the genocide as well.

      You never learn from AIPAC and you do not care. You do not wish to change it you simply wish to continue the genocide but with treats for yourself. No politician will change after an election. They always move even more towards Israel after the election because they have no more voters to appeal to.

      You should have learned your lesson in 2024. Now you have Trump. Try thinking about what the lesson before you type another comment stanning for genocide. Might not be the winning strategy after all.

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          If progressives knew anything about how to win they would actually win for a change

          If harris new anything abour winning she would have won

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            Democrats have won the majority of elections since the 90s.

            Between the foreign interference, GOP propaganda, election meddling and the billionaire class literally buying votes… Harris lost by 1%

            Progressives are losing by bigger margins.

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              harris lost because she was so stupid and couldn’t convince people that trump will be worst for the economy

              The biggest offender of medling in elections is israel which bought trump, harris and biden. They didn’t buy progressists

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                  Fedderman disagrees. He ran as progressive and supports the IDF.

                  Fair. Fedderman is a pro genocide in that case just like Trump, Biden , Harris and you

                  But he was able to trick gullible leftists into throwing away their votes so he can get re-elected and gut the election process.

                  Harris would have lost even if every single progressist voted for her. She lost because she was just too dumb and couldn’t convince people that she is better about the economy and the borders.

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                    Harris would have lost even if every single progressist voted for her. She lost because she was just too dumb and couldn’t convince people that she is better about the economy and the borders.

                    Harris only lost by 1%. If there are so few progressives voters that they can’t tip that scale, then you know that progressives have no chance of winning without democrats.

                    Which means voting 3rd party is just proving that someone doesn’t care about changing anything.

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        Might not be the winning strategy after all.

        Neither is voting 3rd party, lol.

        Please refrain from talking about winning when you vote for candidates that literally cannot win.