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Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation. Shady, manipulative, tactics.
Fuck them. I love Lemmy because it seems like the ratio of like-minded people is much larger here. Nothing better than seeing other principled people that would rather give up some comforts than deal with ads and bend the knee to the pieces of shit that try to push them.
Even products in the supermarket (such as bread!!) come with ads in the fucking plastic wrapper. I have changed my bread brand due to this. I will absolutely give up any comfort to avoid your manipulation. I will fucking shower in cold water if it means I don’t bend the knee to pieces of shit.
Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation.
Don’t worry they’ve solved that, it’s called 🩷 𝐼𝓃𝒻𝓁𝓊𝑒𝓃𝒸𝒾𝓃𝑔 😎. That’s much less ominous! They just influence!
Well said. It disgusts me a lot, and it also dismays me to see a lot of people don’t care at all about ads. I even rememeber people in my old job talking about ads on tv. Boggles my mind.
If I am forced to see or interact with an ad I will do absolutely everything in my power to excise that ad source from my life.
It’s been a minute so I could be misremembering, but you’re not far off. Another word for public relations (the shaping of public opinion) is propaganda.
Edward Bearnays wrote a book titled Propaganda, where he talks about the need to rebrand the work of Propagandist after it became associated with negative influence during WW2. From what I recall he used the term public relations, but seemed to prefer the term propaganda.
He’s also the person infamous for convincing Americans that we should eat bacon and eggs for breakfast. Another interesting story is about how he advertised to make music rooms in homes trendy, so he could help sell more pianos.
He talks about some of the early manipulation tactics advertisers use. Such as trying to sell you an experience instead of a product. Think of how modern car commercials show a lifestyle more than they show you the car.
It’s an enlightening book that shows that before the war, calling an advertiser a propagandist wouldn’t be out of place. Those propagandist manipulated us into calling the PR now.
Oh, and if I recall correctly propaganda comes from Latin and means “to propagate.”
My entire homelab is constructed with the unofficial goal of never watching any advertisements ever.
Same here. Glad to hear, that I’m not the only one.
Advertisement makes me want that product even less.
The worse the product is, the more desperate they get to shove it in your face. Good products don’t need to pay others to pretend it’s good, you just find out via word-of-mouth or free trials
I was thinking about this just the other day. There’s a popular market in my home state, one I’ve been going to since childhood. It’s a single store, not a chain, and it’s almost always packed. I’ve never seen nor heard a single ad for it in my life. Naturally, that makes me like the place even more.
Yep I actively avoid companies that inundate me. I’ve switched insurance companies because of it (local agent got me much better rates too).
So you’re telling me gaico doesn’t save as much on car insurance?
Usually they “save you money” by giving you a shittier policy and relying on the buyer not understanding what coverage they need and why
Interesting, the more I know now! Thank you!
Seriously going through an insurance broker is awesome. Best dang way to deal with insurance because I can just call up the broker and have them do it all for me, plus they get paid on commission by the insurance companies (which are mostly smaller B2B companies that don’t spend millions on advertising) so it’s not even like you pay more for your insurnace
People say this but, if advertising didn’t work, companies would have stopped paying for ads long time ago. It works for them, we view ads and then we are willing to pay more for a product that is worth less; it’s this simple.
The only solution for us is to avoid ads at all cost.
I can’t obviously speak for everyone, I can only speak for myself. And I hate products that advertise.
Almost drove off with the gas cap and door open on my car cause I was doing my best to ignore the pump blasting some shit advertisement about some shit product I don’t want and wouldn’t buy. Wife caught it before I could drive off, but still, I will never voluntarily watch any form of ad. I loathe this world.
Almost drove off with the gas cap and door open on my car
I made it a habit to always glance in my side mirrors to confirm there’s nothing unexpected around me (including open doors or connected gas nozzles) before shifting out of park every time. Granted best practice is to walk around the car once as an inspection before even starting it every time, but that’s more than I often can be bothered to do
Mute button is on the right of the screen, second from the top.
Fucking hate those gas pump ads.
Not every screen has buttons. The ones by me all don’t.
Oh dang. That’s fucking bullshit. Around here they all have buttons. Wow. I hate capitalism
Yup, it fucking blows. I can’t even find the speakers on the ones by me, I think they’re behind the screen.
I find sponsor reads kinda funny. Its like we went back to dawn of tv. And speaking about statisfying, there is nothing more satisfying than a cool paul morrow cigarrete…
i have an actively hostile relationship with ads but i don’t see a reason to try and justify it. Ads are bad. -pretty simple.
Advertising can feel overwhelming when it stops being informative and starts feeling intrusive. The balance between visibility and respect for attention is important.
That balance is practically impossible now. If you respect people’s attention, you will lose that attention to some other advertiser who does not.
Invasive ads are my reference to not buying the product.
I actively go out of my way to not buy anything that annoyingly advertises to me
I’m so hostile about advertising my son has picked up the habit.
After setting up my devices and everything i noticed i get really really mad when i encounter (especially intrusive) ads nonetheless. It usually makes me stop whatever i was doing and consider if whatever i want to accomplish is worth more than watching a 10 second ad. - Usually it´s not.
I would not even mind them if they did not repeat so fucking much.
Ublock has always just worked for me? I mean, a couple of times YouTube did a thing, but then a day, or an hour later, Ublock fixed it. I’m referring to YouTube only.
Also, I run NoScript and choose whether I’m willing to allow a site to show me an ad, and slurp my data, in exchange for whatever is on the site that I think I want. Often, I get tired of allowing scripts one at a time until the content appears, and just close the site. Rarely, I’ll bite the bullet and allow all, then go and wash my hands afterward.
Fewer than ten sites make up more than 90% of my viewing.
Filterlist mainteiners are GOAT
ublock and privacy badger. umatrix for fine tuning.
You guys have ads ? On what ?
