• ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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    Ronald Reagan came third in the 1968 Republican primary, didn’t run in 1972, and came second in 1976.

    Harris bowed out months before the votes were even cast, and was in something like 6th place at the time she quit. How is this at all comparable?

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        Is it really goalpost moving for ‘she never won’ to be elaborated on, into ‘she gave up before the voting even began because she was that unpopular’?

        Does that really change the comparison between her and someone who came third and second in primaries? The essence of your retort was ‘neither did Reagan but look at him’, but the fact is that ‘they both failed to win primaries’, while technically correct, is definitely not equivalent to saying they were on equal standing. This is basically the exchange that just happened:

        • “She obviously never won that scholarship, she never aced a test”
        • “He never aced a test either, but he won the scholarship”
        • “Yeah, but she had a D average and he had a B+ average”
        • “Are the goalposts on wheels so they can be moved more easily?”
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          Is it really goalpost moving for ‘she never won’ to be elaborated on, into ‘she gave up before the voting even began because she was that unpopular’?

          Yes.

          You see, in the first instance the goalposts were at “she never won”.

          Then the goalposts were moved.

          Now the goalposts are at “she gave up before the voting even began”.

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            The crux of “she never won” was to argue that she was not popular. Pointing out that not only did she not win, she gave up while in 6th place before the official voting even started, only serves to magnify the original argument. It’s not a goalpost move.