When Labour first won, they made some great changes and everything was going well until they started throwing disabled people off of busses and shielding private water companies and it got to the point where I was like - wtf happened.
I don’t even know who they think they’re serving.
Personally I don’t think this political polarisation is a good thing
The Greens apparently want to “immediately begin the process of dismantling our nuclear weapons, cancelling the Trident programme” which I think is the wrong move when Russia poses such a big threat to Europe. China and the US could pose threats in the future. Nukes deter those big powers from invading the UK. We could also work with our allies in Europe to try and create a nuclear deterrent which covers all of Europe.
Then on the other side you have Reform who want to blame brown people for everything, and I think that’s also a wrong move.
Whilst I can see the benefits of a nuclear deterrent, I do think there’s an argument for scrapping the Trident programme as it relies on US support. If there’s an alternative that makes us less reliant on the US, I think that should be explored.
Sure it would be good to reduce reliance on the US, e.g. by replacing Trident missiles with British missiles for delivering nukes. But that web page from the Greens I linked to talks about intending to “immediately begin the process of dismantling our nuclear weapons”. I think the UK should keep its nuclear weapons for now, while exploring a future possibility of non-American missiles to deliver them.
behind reform
We did it Patrick! We saved Britain from the 2 party state
🔥🏢🔥🏢🔥Both The Green Party and Reform want to get rid of First Past The Post as a voting system and are pro-Proportional Representation, but I’m sure only one of those parties will implement it if they win the next general election outright.
what @zwerg@feddit.org said; my point is that having reform be one of the two new parties isn’t saving britain at all, and they are going to ruin britain with fascism.
It’s so odd it took the Tories decades to lose support, and Starmer manages it in just a couple of years.
I am surprised Labour is not sacking him posthaste.
From what I’ve listened to, the right faction of the party are keeping Starmer to prevent the left faction from replacing him.
Sounds like tossing the baby with the bath water…
I think its because in many ways the 2024 GE was a vote against the tories rather than a vote for labour. Coupled with that labour haven’t really been that big a shift away from the shit people are tired from the Tories with has lead to a cratering of their fairly limited support.
I’ll absolutely buy into that logic. But why would they take such a huge lead and just throw it out like that? They should have realized that their policies stink, no?
After the locals.
Need him around to pin that disaster on before switching.
With no obvious successor, an internal party system that doesn’t support habitual back stabbing like the Tories have, and a public that is more split than two royal brothers on whose fault all this is, it is going to get messy!
Labour are going to throw so much **** over the next six months, they’ll still be stinking come next election.
Oh, and I also believe the reason they’ve collapsed faster is all the frustration that built over ten years and wiped out the Tories just got transferred to Labour.
People voted for change. and like confused freddie mercury fans, they got Status Quo and they didn’t want that.
Yeah. Labour seems to have gotten as far as knowing they needed to talk about change to win the election, but seemed not to realize they had to do something about it after they won.
To be fair to them, it must be really hard to understand the need for change if you are a posh member of parliament. What’s wrong with the status quo? Look at all these people licking your boots! /s
