• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    MAGA has made America the vassals of Israel, Russia, and any Sociopathic Oligarch willing to pay off Trump, which is no problem. MAGA is a genuine National Security Threat, and need to crushed decisively, purged from our government and society, and prohibited from existing.

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    ironically, Bernie is one of the few potential presidents who probably would have held Bibi off and not gotten involved in their adventures. He’s been an outspoken critic.

    hate him all you want, but clinton (mentored by fucking henry bomb cambodia kissinger) - and now trump as shown by the last year - never would have reigned him in. Bernie could shrug off AIPAC bullshit in ways none of them could ever hope.

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      That’s exactly why he was not nominated by the DNC, who’s leveraged by AIPAC backed candidates.

      The whole system is corrupt. Both sides corrupt, one is more open and the other behind the mask.

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        Both are corrupt, yes. Both ha e different agendas, yes. Therefore, if you only focus on 1 issue, you can say both are just as bad. Personally, I’d rather have a “free” democratic society than an authoritarian christo fascist one, but what do I know?!

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          You do not have a free democratic society. The DNC has stated openly that they are a private organization who can handpick any candidate they want no matter what the people vote for. You have always lived in a dictatorship of wealthy pedophiles, they just don’t bother with pretense anymore.

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              Binary lib bot-ass thinking on display, you are firmly inside the cave and yelling at shadows on the wall

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                Only the opinions given to you by The Party are legitimate, all other points of view are inherently illegitimate and anyone who holds them must be paid to do so.

                Orwell could not have dared to envision the knee-jerk servility of your average bluemaga. There is no psychological daylight between you and the 1950s farmer screaming about communist infiltrators on the local city council. You have the exact same brain.

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                  Pot calling the kettle black. It’s always projection with you people, if your not obstructing or gas lighting.

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          If you somehow got that message from what I wrote it was certainly not my intent. And again the primary reason Harris lost was the fact that she didn’t condemn the Palestinian genocide while bowing to the will of the fascist state of Israel.

          Clearly she’d have been better than this fucked up administration AND her administration was still complicit.

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            Clearly she’d have been better than this fucked up administration AND her administration was still complicit.

            So the trolly problem presents itself: do you pick the imperfect candidate and hope for reason, or do you pout and call everyone else a genocide supporter?

            look at the other responses in this thread and tell me: which one leads to a better tomorrow for trans kids, Palestinians, Iranians etc.?

            harm reduction is a real thing.

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              the people who tried to get the democrats to change course by saying they wouldn’t vote for genocide were engaged in harm reduction. the “blue no matter who” crowd said “bombs away”.

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        it’s called harm reduction. not better than bernie, but better than trump.

        unfortunately this is the timeline we occupy. I understand all the reservations with compromised candidates - but it’s democracy, not marriage, you don’t get to pick the exactly perfect candidate and ignore the harm done by the obviously more hideous candidate. That’s not how this works.

        It’s imperfect, but it’s the reality we live in. Selfishly deciding not to participate because your perfect candidate / ideology wasn’t met shouldn’t mean you choose the ideologically VILE candidate - which is what you’ve gotten in Trump.

        I WISH I COULD HAVE VOTED FOR BERNIE.

        But the hellscape that is the middle east would not be where it is today under Harris.

        Period.

        Fucks sake.

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          shouldn’t mean you choose the ideologically VILE candidate

          You heard it here, from a BlueMAGA shit head: genocide support isn’t ideologically vile, apparently!

          But the hellscape that is the middle east would not be where it is today under Harris.

          It literally was like that under Biden, who Harris promised to emulate. For fucks sake, you BlueMAGA genocide deniers are as bad as regular Trumpers.

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            Ahh yes, both sides are the exact same. No reasonable human being could determine the difference between Trump and whatever Democrat is running.

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              You clearly can’t determine the difference, given you’ve resorted to outright lies and genocide apologism.

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          Foreign policy is bipartisan. I understand the idea of harm reduction for domestic issues even if I’m skeptical considering democrats had already thrown trans people under the bus. It’s possible that the democrats wouldn’t have kidnapped Maduro, but they’d gleefully support the killing of over half a million people worldwide due to illegal sanctions, and they’d definitely have bomb places regardless (look at Obama). Hell, Obama and Biden increased ICE funding and created the conditions for Trump. So sure, vote for the lesser evil, but don’t pretend foreigners ever mattered to them, especially those of us living here in our countries where our democratically elected politicians sometimes disagree with your ghouls in chief and then we get collective punishment for it.

          As for Bernie Sanders, he’s still a Zionist, he has repeatedly endorsed sending more money to Israel and he betrayed the people who voted him when he pretended he cared about Palestinians, going as far as refusing to call the genocide what it was and constantly blaming Hamas which helps manufacture consent for the complete extermination of the Palestinian people. So fuck him.

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            even if I’m skeptical considering democrats had already thrown trans people under the bus.

            lol. during this admin transfolk have had their licenses revoked.

            you’re a dummy if you think dems would have been worse.

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              Not worse, but still bad on trans people, considering Harris campaigned on “obeying the law” and letting states discriminate trans people if they wanted to. Trump is obviously worse.

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                Harris campaigned on “obeying the law” and letting states discriminate trans people if they wanted to

                I don’t recall this at all.

                Trump is obviously worse.

                finding common ground is the first step.

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              It was a state move, not a federal one. Do you think the spineless dems would have stood up to states doing fascist shit? Because history shows they sure as fuck wouldn’t. They would have told us to vote harder for their very progressive AIPAC funded “unlimited genocide on the Palestinians” senate candidate, who would get in and then immediately capitluate in the name of bipartisanship. I don’t know how many more times you need to see this play out.

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                  5 day work week, voting rights act, civil rights act

                  You can thank communist, anarchist and suffragette violence for that. Democrats were sending in cops, Pinkertons and the FBI to kill the people fighting for justice. But don’t let facts stop you from jacking yourself silly

                  Free Palestine.

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    I mean some Jews don’t like calling the Zionist entity Israel and see calling it that as a kind of blasphemy

    I hate Bernie btw just adding some context

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      Bernie is an Israeli Kibbutz colonist. He also starts off every statement with “ISISrael has the right to exist”.