I think we’ve seen too much of Klingons being reasonable enough people when it comes to social issues that I don’t think that’s a path we should explore if only because there are other means of doing it.
Orville does it a lot like older Trek, which is to say, beats you over the head with a concept you may be experiencing in day to day life and shows the real world consequences of opinions around it. They have a storyline about a Klingon-like race that is strictly male (they sex change the babies if they’re not male), the ‘right’ opinion is very clear by how the main protagonists react, but they can’t just overrule another culture or people
In this way, they assert that the learned/educated belief is to let people be who they are, and restricting that only causes pain and trauma and the rift it tears in families can be massive. They flipped the issue on it’s head. “Forced sex changes” is the big fear Republicans in the US have been touting this last few decades, so now the uber-masculine species is forced to be all male and any disagreement is systematically squashed and discouraged. But it’s so painfully clear the Moclans are in wrong, and the tension of the show comes down to how systems oppress others and the limited options for outside entities to intervene.
Essentially my point is that people WANT a utopian show where the good guys are really doing good things and the universe is mostly on it’s way away from the troubles we experience in society today. Orville and Old Trek both asserted that some things have already been handled in Earth’s history, like capitalism and gender/sex discrimination, and that people who disagree are anachronistic and often farther behind in other technologies. Call the dumb people dumb on my fantasy show, and do it in a way that let’s the audience experience the issue without making it an opinion that holds ANY mainstream appeal outside of clearly-wrong fringe groups.
If it’s not a problem for Kirk to kiss Uhura then why should homosexuality be an actual contention point in Star Trek in 2026? Just give us another allegory for it and we’ll pick it up and move on
One of my favourite bits of TOS is when Space Abraham Lincoln calls her a Negress, then apologises for being racist, but Uhura genuinely doesn’t know what the fuck racism is.
Unlike Sisko, she’s never studied history, so she doesn’t even know Earth used to have that sort of bigotry. That’s the sort of culture I aspire to be part of one day. One where racism is so dead that nobody knows what it is.
I think we’ve seen too much of Klingons being reasonable enough people when it comes to social issues that I don’t think that’s a path we should explore if only because there are other means of doing it.
Orville does it a lot like older Trek, which is to say, beats you over the head with a concept you may be experiencing in day to day life and shows the real world consequences of opinions around it. They have a storyline about a Klingon-like race that is strictly male (they sex change the babies if they’re not male), the ‘right’ opinion is very clear by how the main protagonists react, but they can’t just overrule another culture or people
In this way, they assert that the learned/educated belief is to let people be who they are, and restricting that only causes pain and trauma and the rift it tears in families can be massive. They flipped the issue on it’s head. “Forced sex changes” is the big fear Republicans in the US have been touting this last few decades, so now the uber-masculine species is forced to be all male and any disagreement is systematically squashed and discouraged. But it’s so painfully clear the Moclans are in wrong, and the tension of the show comes down to how systems oppress others and the limited options for outside entities to intervene.
Essentially my point is that people WANT a utopian show where the good guys are really doing good things and the universe is mostly on it’s way away from the troubles we experience in society today. Orville and Old Trek both asserted that some things have already been handled in Earth’s history, like capitalism and gender/sex discrimination, and that people who disagree are anachronistic and often farther behind in other technologies. Call the dumb people dumb on my fantasy show, and do it in a way that let’s the audience experience the issue without making it an opinion that holds ANY mainstream appeal outside of clearly-wrong fringe groups.
If it’s not a problem for Kirk to kiss Uhura then why should homosexuality be an actual contention point in Star Trek in 2026? Just give us another allegory for it and we’ll pick it up and move on
One of my favourite bits of TOS is when Space Abraham Lincoln calls her a Negress, then apologises for being racist, but Uhura genuinely doesn’t know what the fuck racism is.
Unlike Sisko, she’s never studied history, so she doesn’t even know Earth used to have that sort of bigotry. That’s the sort of culture I aspire to be part of one day. One where racism is so dead that nobody knows what it is.