No criminal charges were filed, but the student who punched another student for holding a pro-ICE sign at Lake Zurich High School last week received a two-day suspension and is back in class.
That kid is a fucking hero. I said so on Reddit when it happened, and I’m saying it here now as well. I condone his actions and, if more people did what he did, we would stand a better fighting chance against this loathsome menace currently destroying everything good in the USA and abroad.
No, though I did post specifically that I condone what he did. It wasn’t that though. I’m dual national American and French. I grew up a lot in the USA, but I’ve been living in France for over ten years and I’ve chosen my side in this fight. To that end: I’ve been 100% serious about getting off of the American tech stack. I’ve left iCloud (Apple Music forthcoming) entirely, and been getting off of more and more non-EU/FOSS places. I’ve been blogging about it to help others. It’s been rewarding. Lemmy was just another step to take. 😃👍
While I generally agree that all Nazis must be punched, this can be counterproductive.
Look what’s going on in France. A Nazi got into a brawl, died from his wounds, and now he’s treated like a fucking national hero. The left in general are portrayed as terrorists.
Don’t underestimate how efficient the right is at playing the victim.
It doesn’t matter. They’re getting what they want. You can play nice and let them have what they want, or you can take some risks, stand for what you believe in, and fight back.
Fighting back against school bullies is also “against the rules.”
I mean it may feel good to punch one of these Nazi’s, but it doesn’t mean it’s helping. I love what this kid did, don’t get me wrong. We absolutely need to fight back and stand for what we believe in, but getting violent, except out of defense, is unproductive and only deepens the wedge between the left and the right, making things worse.
Kid was walking through the high on attention with a big ol sign to advertise for an untrained, highly aggresive, indescriminatly brutal paramilitary force acting out of their jurisdiction and kidnapping people off of the streets mostly without even documenting where they take them. Kid knows damn well what he supports and wants everyone to know it.
There is a time for civil debate and there’s a time for punchin’
I think carrying a sign in support of ice should count as punchin’ worthy.
This is one of those categorical imperatives where it has its desired effect as long as everyone consistently does it.
If we don’t resist, they’ll lie and say we did. If we defend ourselves, they’ll say we’re violent. So doing nothing, or doing the minimum, is ineffective. In fact, not doing things because of worries about potential fascist reactions is nothing but cowardice that plays into their hands.
only deepens the wedge between the left and the right, making things worse
There should never be any unity between the left and the right, and the violent right shouldn’t exist at all. If you’d like to eat a meal that’s 50% horse shit, that’s on you, but there are times when the only correct course of action is not to compromise. This is one.
Fighting back against school bullies is also “against the rules.”
As a kid, I had problems with bullies. Then I grew, trained, and fought back with increasing effectiveness. That ended it, and the suspensions I got along the way were a cost of doing the right thing.
And we need to crush this bullshit! Especially in Lyon it’s absolutely mind-blowing that this little shit is allowed to even be recognized as a victim.
We fucking judged Klaus Barbie in Lyon when I was a kid, and people dare to say a nazi is a victim. You’ve no idea how insane this whole thing is.
That kid is a fucking hero. I said so on Reddit when it happened, and I’m saying it here now as well. I condone his actions and, if more people did what he did, we would stand a better fighting chance against this loathsome menace currently destroying everything good in the USA and abroad.
Did reddit ban you for promoting violence? Pigboy steve only allows conservatives leeway in what they post
No, though I did post specifically that I condone what he did. It wasn’t that though. I’m dual national American and French. I grew up a lot in the USA, but I’ve been living in France for over ten years and I’ve chosen my side in this fight. To that end: I’ve been 100% serious about getting off of the American tech stack. I’ve left iCloud (Apple Music forthcoming) entirely, and been getting off of more and more non-EU/FOSS places. I’ve been blogging about it to help others. It’s been rewarding. Lemmy was just another step to take. 😃👍
While I generally agree that all Nazis must be punched, this can be counterproductive.
Look what’s going on in France. A Nazi got into a brawl, died from his wounds, and now he’s treated like a fucking national hero. The left in general are portrayed as terrorists.
Don’t underestimate how efficient the right is at playing the victim.
That just means they’re not killing enough Nazis.
It doesn’t matter. They’re getting what they want. You can play nice and let them have what they want, or you can take some risks, stand for what you believe in, and fight back.
Fighting back against school bullies is also “against the rules.”
I mean it may feel good to punch one of these Nazi’s, but it doesn’t mean it’s helping. I love what this kid did, don’t get me wrong. We absolutely need to fight back and stand for what we believe in, but getting violent, except out of defense, is unproductive and only deepens the wedge between the left and the right, making things worse.
Its helping. They want you to keep silent. That is their main goal
Kid was walking through the high on attention with a big ol sign to advertise for an untrained, highly aggresive, indescriminatly brutal paramilitary force acting out of their jurisdiction and kidnapping people off of the streets mostly without even documenting where they take them. Kid knows damn well what he supports and wants everyone to know it.
There is a time for civil debate and there’s a time for punchin’
I think carrying a sign in support of ice should count as punchin’ worthy.
People are going to have to do more than “punch Nazis” before long. If you’re clutching pearls over some high school punches, you need to wake up.
This is one of those categorical imperatives where it has its desired effect as long as everyone consistently does it.
If we don’t resist, they’ll lie and say we did. If we defend ourselves, they’ll say we’re violent. So doing nothing, or doing the minimum, is ineffective. In fact, not doing things because of worries about potential fascist reactions is nothing but cowardice that plays into their hands.
There should never be any unity between the left and the right, and the violent right shouldn’t exist at all. If you’d like to eat a meal that’s 50% horse shit, that’s on you, but there are times when the only correct course of action is not to compromise. This is one.
As a kid, I had problems with bullies. Then I grew, trained, and fought back with increasing effectiveness. That ended it, and the suspensions I got along the way were a cost of doing the right thing.
And we need to crush this bullshit! Especially in Lyon it’s absolutely mind-blowing that this little shit is allowed to even be recognized as a victim. We fucking judged Klaus Barbie in Lyon when I was a kid, and people dare to say a nazi is a victim. You’ve no idea how insane this whole thing is.
Every time a Nazi gets punched , an angel 😇 gets their wings.
Every unpunched Nazi makes the baby Jesus cry.
I see no downsides at all as long as you don’t explain why you’re doing it and don’t get caught.