• degen@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    I think that’s mistaking the forest for the trees (I know that’s sort of backward for the metaphor)

    I 100% deny these mongrel’s claims to be Christians on a purely conceptual level. Put 100 molesting “cross dressers” in a room with a couple trans folk and I’m not going to think they’re the same.

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      Ok but this is what Christian society has allowed and secreted away and in many cases (outside molestation) they have celebrated their atrocities. These are the leaders of Christian faith. For centuries. At what point will “real” Christians take power of their group, do you think?

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        2 months ago

        Honestly not sure, and that is a really good point. I do think there are enough people out there who call themselves Christians and explicitly reject the nonsense, but maybe that group is thinning like my own disillusionment.

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          If they change to be unitarians or something the. I don’t really have a problem with them. I still dislike religions in general but if you are actively distancing yourself from the evils, it’s fine. Unfortunately, the excuse of “well my daddy and granddaddy were Catholics so I have to be too” attitude keeps people entrenched within the groups who love doing evil.

          That being said, the last two popes have been a pleasant surprise change in tone.

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            I will say I always end up back at “the institution is the problem” (can you guess I grew up protestant?) but I agree on the popes being a good trend. What you’ve brought up makes me wonder the power of calling yourself Christian the “loudest” or with the most influence, even while being directly unchristian. That sort of co-opting is almost inevitable.