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blaming religion for pissraels crime is like blaming christianity for the colonisation of americas. It’s a tool used, not the root cause.
Why not blame Christians? Are you aware of what the Catholic Spaniards did in the Americas? It was REVOLTING.
Just one example of many
Abrahamic religions deserve all of the blame they get and more
Blame the christians absolutely, but recognize that the primary motor behind colonisation was not religion but accumulation of capital. There was no such drive among armenian christians, egyptian christians etc. Religion is a powerful tool to control the exploited, but not the cause of colonialism. Like the wheels don’t power the car but are essential for it’s movement. There are also other uses for wheels, but there is only one use for a car motor.
Their holy book literally commands them to kill all these people on this specific land
I’m not aware of any such passage.
Deuteronomy 20:10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.
@mathemachristian @HasturInYellow they’re supremacists and colonists.
Exactly this!
@mathemachristian @HasturInYellow it’s’ not “blaming” Christianity, it’s acknowledging its driving force and purpose : the crusades, the Iberian “Reconquista”, the portuguese empire, the Inquisition, all “holly wars” with massive killings, forced conversions, religious taxes and political power as well as plunder, commercial expansion and colonisation.
Please see my comment here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/19423102
I am not so sure about this, very strong guns don’t kill people vibes.
They don’t. Otherwise the myriad of other christians would have started the same thing. Where are the ethiopian colonies? Druze imperialism?
Christians are mass rapist and murderers throughout history.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/08/ethiopia-troops-and-militia-rape-abduct-women-and-girls-in-tigray-conflict-new-report/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwygrnjz9wro
Yeah, looks like a lot of murder, rape, and killing just like every Christian nation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_colonialism
Needless to say Christianity has always been spread by the sword. My ancestors were forced to convert or die.
But look at this worn torn country of death and rape! See Christianity isn’t that bad.
most ignorant lib of the day award please readsettlers.org
Yes, you are ignorant of the damage Christianity has done. How many gays in Africa have Christians butchered at the request of US Evangelicals.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/19/africa-uganda-evangelicals-homophobia-antigay-bill/
The list goes on and on. Truly ignorance must be bliss on your part.
Blaming the overexploited for the problems in their society is a fucked up thing to do. Do you not realise that the homophobia in africa is not due to christianity which had been there for over a thousand years before the colonisers? I guess you do because you correctly blame US evangelicals (
if only someone had linked a video detailing the rise of US evangelical missions due to imperialism and not the other way aroundgot my threads mixed up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hePRA9yVdQE) so I don’t know what your point actually is… is the oppression inherent to christianity or did it come from outside?also calling others ignorant while and refusing to readsettlers.org is such an onbrand thing to do lmao
Listen, just because you can’t accept Christianity is a garbage religion doesn’t mean we can’t. Do I need to remind you that it was used to justify the slave trade and led to the concept of race which has been used to divide and destroy people lives ever since?
Please point out how Christianity has stopped war and brought us to peace. I can find numerous examples of the opposite, so I actually need to see that Christianity has done much more good than the harm it has caused.
I am acutely aware of colonialism and the slave trade having studied it for years. The human suffering and destruction the whites brought to the new world and Africa is staggering. How the Catholic church used the inquisition to remove moorish blood from Spain. This is the foundation of the white supremecist movement brought to us by Christianity.
Please lecture me on my ignorance though.
No shifting the goalposts! This was my original claim
The analogy I used elsewhere was
to show this I only need to show examples where christianity hasn’t caused settler-colonialism and one example was ethiopian christians. You then blamed the ethiopians for their societies state and not the colonizers.
your claim that christianity (or rather all religion? Seeing the religious justification for pissrahell is judaism) is the cause is a much stronger one that requires more than some articles off of a half-assed google search. I however linked you a video that details the rise of us evangelical missionaries as caused by the empire and not the other way around. And a whole-ass book on settlerism.
so you agree it was a justification, not the cause?
Strawman so dry australia declared it a national threat
and yet, no opinions on readsettlers.org?
I strongly disagree.
Ok? Any particular reason? How does religion manifest all the hardware and political machinery necessary to commit these heinous crimes? It seems to me that capitalism, colonialism, imperialism all have the means to do so but religous institution no longer do. Hell you’d have more of an argument about “religion” being behind genocide back when the Vatican was a major political player.
Please look for the sources of these evils objectively and not through redditisms. Here is a good video by someone in the skeptic community explaining how imperialists use religion to further their colonial agenda (I know! an actually rational skeptic, no misogyny or islamophobia detected!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hePRA9yVdQE
Are you unaware that religion is the bedrock of colonialism, capitalism, and imperialism? And that they wield an immense amount of power today?
The Catholic church owns 177 million acres of land today, more than any other organization on Earth. Untold unfathomable wealth is at their command. And you don’t think the Vatican is a major political power?
Please realize this is not a redditism, it’s a fact; even this one sect alone has unbelievable power.
It’s more subtle than it used to be pre Reformation, and that fools a lot of people. Don’t be one of them.
completely, especially after liberalisms enlightenment philosophers and the rise of rationalism culminating in the french revolution. I’m not denying the western church is very powerful but it’s not what it once was. Please watch the video it talks about the rise of evangelical christianity in latam by the cia to further imperialism and how a lot of catholics in latam were actually an active obstacle to imperialism.
I don’t use videos for research/education, apologies.
I can read information 10x faster, and that is my preferred means.
Is Catholicism what it once was? Of course not. Is it more powerful than practically any single corporation or other organization? CERTAINLY
The land alone… and that’s a real tangible asset. Their treasures? priceless
Ok so we are in agreement?? Because that’s what I was saying. I mean I dont know if would say they are more powerful than the US or blackrock but very powerful still
It’s difficult to weigh “soft power”, so all we can do is look at the results
owns own country check
tax free throughout globe check
A THOUSAND YEARS of millions of acres of stolen land and incalculable wealth and treasures check
Do they own a military? No. But they own key people, in ways that we can never know, and key corporations, more than we can ever measure.
I don’t think Blackrock is more powerful, but it’s a fun subject to talk about and research (for me)
Thought blackwater was them but can’t find anything tbh.
You don’t have the be a cardinal in the Catholic church to be perpetuating and influenced/controlled by the religious institutions oppression.
People in the same in group work towards the same goals. When those goals are all filtered through the lens of the in group being gods favorite people, it taints every thought from that foundation upwards.
So you actually believe that Satansyahoo and the settler elite are doing this because they are very devout jews and they would stop if they weren’t? I’d urge you to watch the video, it’s very illuminating
I believe they believe they are.