I posted this meme to the Lemmy Shitpost community. I reckoned that it might generate a bit of debate, and would probably end up locked, but the entire post got deleted, and moreover, I’m now forbidden from sharing political posts to the community. Political posts are not against the rules of the community.
I have reason to believe that the post was deleted not because it was controversial, but because the moderator (Decoy321) disagreed with the political slant of the meme. The reason I find this suspicious is because other controversial posts, such as one about veganism remains up, and Decoy321 seemed to enjoy the fact it was controversial:
Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds
You are exhausting and ML’s seemingly favorite phrase to describe anarchists, an unserious person.
Your faction’s way of thinking is a major reason I resent existence. You are letting the actual fascists win and there is nothing I could say to change your mind. You might as well have been a MAGA pre-2024. Worthless, stupid, petulantly virtue ethicist.
You have nothing to counter intellectually and its evident. Why should I even try with people like you when this is your vapid fucking response? Waste of time, repeating stupid pointless memes.
Its so depressing. And it just confirms I’m making the right choice to separate myself from this stuff and I don’t want to be right, I want to be wrong. I want there to be something here and no one is capable of offering it.
You’re very clearly arguing to have your existing beliefs confirmed. If you want to be wrong, ask questions instead of declaring your own positions about things. I’d gladly educate you on why your ideology is wrong and why your beliefs lead to fascism, but it’s obvious to me you aren’t here to learn
My existing beliefs render me miserable and alienated.
In actuality, I do want someone to demonstrate to me in a way that convinces me. But I’ll concede and I’m very good at being convincing in my own defenses of my beliefs to myself.
I have to be ruthless in that way though. If I don’t push back as hard as possible, I also wont be convinced that I’m wrong then either.
In a sense, me declaring things is mostly in hopes for a refutation from you with solid reasoning or evidence (though evidence is hard to conjure for ideological arguments). If I ask you what you believe, you will just give me some 101 or something, which wont convince me of anything.
Also to be clear I was using a bit hyperbole with the r-slur statement. Honestly though I have a pretty internally consistent set of reasoning to justify my usage of it.
But whatever, I’m pretty burnt out on my search at this point. My previous post had me increasingly wondering if I just need to get off Lemmy/piefed/whatever. Every time I get into an argument on here it doesn’t serve any purpose but to put me in a bad mood for the rest of the day anyway. Just arguing with people not interested in challenging ideas or any ideological dissection. Its always an attack on personal virtue and that’s intellectually worthless.
Comrade, never entertain fascists.
My cue was “degenerate”
I was describing what other’s would describe me as.
In reality, no one should entertain people who value virtue over consequence. You would let the world burn as long as you can describe yourself as ethically pure.
more professional philosophers identify as deontologists than any other ethical system
Being a professional deontological philosopher doesn’t actually make an argument for deontology. Or that there more of those than others. That just means a lot of smart people are wrong.
there is a survey of philosophers that shows what I said is true
I wasn’t refuting that a lot of philosophers are deontologists. I was saying that’s irrelevant.
it’s highly relevant to your erroneous claim
“no one should entertain people who value virtue over consequence.”
the experts in the field just disagree with this stance.
Experts in philosophy are well educated in philosophy, but generally their reading and discourse choices are specifically guided by motivated reasoning more than in other fields.
Experts are just people who’ve learned a lot about a topic. While the required reading to achieve that is commendable (given the dire state of literacy these days), so do medical quacks, conspiracy theorists, and theologians and I don’t waste time debating or engaging seriously with them either.