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Not a meme, post in sister com in sidebar
“In my view Israel has the absolute right to defend itself”
I got this email shortly after Oct 7. He has gotten better on it but still.
Stop saying Netanyahu like the problem isn’t the existence of the Zionist ethnostate occupying and genocide Palestine. The problem is bigger than and would persist beyond Netanyahu.
It’s not being determined by the right-wing extremist Netanyahu government. It’s being determined by the right-wing extremist American [Republican] government. It’s merely being influenced by the right-wing extremist Netanyahu government.
Yeah but in fairness The American People don’t have Kompromat on our president like multiple world leaders seem to.
The American People don’t have Kompromat on our president
Half the county outright acknowledged the President as a pedophile.
Kompromat doesn’t work on a man without shame. He’s doing this shit because he wants to do it
What could they have that’s worse than raping and killing kids?
Proof of that or worse.
Pointless grandstanding. Where’s the action to remove this treasonous and illegitimate administration?
What do you expect Sanders to do right now, specifically?
Basically I want him to quit the bullshit. He needs to make every word, every possible public action, and every working moment as a public representative a direct push to remove the entire administration.
I’m all for holding Democrats accountable, genuinely, but it has to start from an honest assessment of where power actually is. Right now, they don’t have it. You can’t hold someone accountable for stopping something they don’t control.
What’s frustrating is watching people correctly identify that the system is rigged against leftist movements, and then somehow translate that into: “The system is irredeemable, so anyone engaging with it is complicit, and I’m morally superior for standing outside it.”
It functions as carte blanche to feel righteous without requiring the hard work of actually preventing the worst actors from burning things down.
Yes, protest. Riot if that’s your lane. Grassroots organize. Build dual power. Do all of it.
But in the meantime? We have to work with the system where we can, while trying to tear it down where we can’t. They’re not mutually exclusive. One preserves the space to do the other.
Genuinely asking, what does “every possible public action” look like on Monday morning that wouldn’t get him, and the platform he’s built, completely sidelined?
They have power, they just refuse to use it. Filibuster. Refuse to show up and thus break quorum. Move and second a motion to adjourn immediately at the session opening if they do show up. Continue to do it until every Democrat has called to adjourn. Continue to propose amendments and make secondary motions to anything that’s ever been touched by a Republican that would undo everything their motion/bill asks. Refuse to close discussion.
The Democrats do have power.
What they lack is a spine or conviction. They’re too worried about their donors.
You switched from Bernie Sanders to the Democrats there.
What specifically do you want him to actually do in this push?
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The modern version of “Carthago delenda est” - everything he says should end in a call to remove the administration as traitors.
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Filibuster - shut down the government so that no vote can be taken until they’re ready to do what needs to be done - not just until the question is put before them, but browbeat the entire Senate until either they do what’s needed, or go for a full shutdown.
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Stop worrying about what the problems are, and only discuss the only reasonable solution. Netanyahu and his people, Putin and his people, the trade stupidity, whatever it is, they’re just problems outside the scope. Focus on what we can fix here in the USA. Article II, Section 4 removal is the only way we can fix it. Bang that drum every day and keep up the constant messaging.
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Nothing. He’s a Democrat, after all
What do you want him to do?
Take a page from Rand Paul and shut down the Senate until it passes a War Powers Act
That article appears to be about delaying an aid package that would’ve gone faster with unanimous consent.
How does Bernie shut down the entire Senate?
filibuster. it’s like the one thing senators can do.
I guess he could try but the collaborating Democrats would just vote for cloture.
Israelies wanted US Funded Socialized Healthcare. They got it!
They’re going to need it, once David’s Sling runs out of rocks
Amazing what a few properly placed bribes and a bit of blackmail can achieve in American politics.
Counterpoint: https://lemmy.ml/post/43986658
Don’t get me wrong, I like Bernie a lot, and I’m glad he spoke out. But …
Bernie is pretending like the Zionist entity is separable from its government.
… that’s exactly what he’s doing.
As a Jew, I’ve got a different take (which I just posted in that thread):
He doesn’t want to say Israel, because people conflate Israel with Judaism. He’s also making the focus a singular discreet and addressable issue, without bringing up the fact that the formation of the state of Israel has been a problem since the Nakba.
He doesn’t want to say Israel, because people conflate Israel with Judaism.
Might be good to tackle that head on, rather than to pretend supporting Netanyahu doesn’t mean being Israeli.
The fact that he is Jewish means he should say Israel because it draws a necessary distinction between Judaism and Zionism. Jewish people being openly anti-zionist makes it clear that conflating it with antisemitism is disingenuous.
With sitting members of Congress I always try to acknowledge many of their communications are to, and meant for, other members of Congress, some/many of whom are the most unhinged people imaginable.
