Zachery Ty Bryan is headed to jail for 16 months stemming from a 2024 DUI arrest – and this time, he’s not walking away with probation.
Link to post since mbin is a little… broken right now.
Over .15 BAC (more than twice the legal limit) and his third DUI
It’s a ten year felony on the third offense in my state, I met a guy that later got sent to prison for years for it, a painter or something like that in a rural area, very nazi ish law enforcement up there, and that’s lifetime count on the dui’s.
As to the legal limits, .15 is not that high, legal limits used to be more like .12, but the feds refused highway sharing money with states if they didn’t drop it to .08, as they were on their kick to make sure the police could find something to take down anyone that works for a living for one reason or another.
The feds also forced states to up their drinking ages to 21 refusing highway money to states that didn’t up it from 18 or whatever. Louisiana was the last hold out and didn’t do it until around 2001 or so, and their highways were shit because of it.
The feds don’t have the authority to do most of what they do, and they got their foot in the door with money, because of their income taxes they’ve enough money to be able to use that to get the States, which by the constitution have a lot more power that the feds have now ursurped, to surrender it to them.
We are led to support the strong federal government because the south was all states rights to support slavery, and has since used cynical arguments when it served them for states rights, even as they repudiated them as often as not.
But the federal government is a monster that must be put back on it’s leash, as could not be more clear. I digress though, no one thinks people should be driving drunk, I am just making the point, that .12 for generations was the standard, in some states. Different people have different tolerances due to genetic differences, and the limits are geared towards those with low tolerance to alcohol.
The larger problem is why we are completely reliant on vehicles, that we cannot even enjoy more than two drinks on the town and legally go home. There must be better ways, fuck cars.
I digress though, no one thinks people should be driving drunk, I am just making the point, that .12 for generations was the standard, in some states.
And the standard before .12 was “no standard” where driving drunk wasn’t even a crime.
The larger problem is why we are completely reliant on vehicles, that we cannot even enjoy more than two drinks on the town and legally go home. There must be better ways, fuck cars.
Taxi cabs have exist since before the invention of cars. They were horse drawn carriages. Today we even have Uber and Lyft that are easier that hailing a cab.
No the limits were upped in not back before it was a crime at all, but around the year 2000. The same time they tightened a lot fo things up.
Mothers against drunk driving and the like a generation or more prior made it a more serious offense, before that it wasn’t always considered as big of a deal as you are referring to, idk pre 1970s or what.
before that it wasn’t always considered as big of a deal as you are referring to, idk pre 1970s or what.
We’re agreeing with the reality that it wasn’t considered a crime or a big deal in generations past. Where we have a huge gulf of disagreement is if this was a problem or not. I am flabbergasted about the strong defense you’re putting up to be able to drink and drive.
May I ask if you or your family have ever been negatively affected by a drunk driver before?
You seem to be unable to distinguish between quantifying a situation and qualifying it, a common condition. Like if I described how a plurality if not majority of voters support deporting illegals, if not in the dickish way it’s done at the moment, you would take that for supporting deporting illegals. But it’s not a qualification of deporting illegals, it’s a quantification.
The facts are… The lack of logic and reason, from people that went to college at that, is an indictment of our schools that in higher education are more of racketeers than educators.
0.15% is not that high, about 3 beers. Edit: wrong, it’s probably like 5 all at once depending on body weight
I just wanted to read the article to see what he did that got him this sentence.
If you would get in a car and drive after three beers, you’re a piece of shit.
The other person makes a good point if I were to pound three Bud Heavies in an hour, and try to drive that would be very bad but if somebody habitually drinks, it may not make them drunk or impaired.
I don’t think that they should raise the limit, but harm reduction principles would suggest that the penalty for a non-violent offence shouldn’t be 10/years in a for profit prison working for slave wages.
Back when I was drinking, 3 beers wouldn’t even get me buzzed. I could shotgun a 6 pack of tallboys and still pass any field sobriety test.
The quantity of alcohol needed to be impaired is very subjective.
I could shotgun a 6 pack of tallboys and still pass any field sobriety test.
but not a breathalyser
Right, but BAC alone isn’t enough to judge impairment. Tolerance is a very real thing.
No it’s not though. You may not feel the buzz that you are chasing, but the actual impairment is still real and in place. You may think you’re fine, but your not. That’s one. And two, once you’ve had 3, your more likely to have more. And if your willing to drive with 3 when you’re sober, you’re Likely to drive with 6 when you’re drunk. Every drunk driver who ever got behind the wheel thought they were fine. Even the ones who had accidents.
Sounds like he’s pretty deep into addiction. He might be someone that could benefit from something like a disulfiram implant. Anytime you drink you get physically sick and risk a trip to the ER to get your stomach pumped.
When I was struggling with alcoholism, I hit a low point and ended up having to move back in with my parents. They made me start taking that, “antabuse” stuff. It, uh, didn’t work. I’d continue drinking with it, and the only thing that would happen is I would break out in giant red splotches. Never got sick from it. Didn’t do a damn thing.
What DID help, was living in a safe space with my wife, far away, with access to weed. Living in that supportive helpful environment was the trick that finally lead me to realize “ya know, if ever there was a future where I lost all of this great stuff I have going for me, surely it would be the future where I keep drinking.” For some reason getting high always helps me put things in perspective and process trauma, and dang if it didn’t end up working that day. I went from drinking a bottle of bourbon a day, to nothing. Sober now almost 7 years. I owe it all to my (now ex)wife and my ability to use weed without police fucking me over for it.
I’m just some random on the internet, but I’m proud you kicked the habit! well done!
from the article:
“Court docs show Bryan also admitted to having two prior DUI convictions, putting him in even hotter water. If he ever gets hit with a fourth, the penalties only get harsher.”
There is the problem right there. How many chances do those with DUI charges deserve? It’s just more passes for them to seriously hurt or kill someone.
We know that it’s his third DUI case in a courtroom, but how many times did he actually sit behind the wheel shitfaced? I’d assume dozens, if not hundreds of times with varying degrees of alcohol related impairment.
Oh most definitely.
