• Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    I know Adira was an incredibly forgettable character in probably the worst Discovery season, but Adira’s “I’m actually gender neutral” coming-out talk with Stamets half a season after they were introduced was incredibly mismatched with everything Trek.

    Especially with the absolutely amazing way DS9 handled the Curzon/Jadzia thing.

    Edit: to see an actually good way to handle a transition on screen, watch The Umbrella Academy.

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      17 hours ago

      That’s a ten second scene with no buildup or fallout (apart from everyone using the correct pronouns going forward). Adira was visibly hesitant in the moment, and you can take issue with that, but there was no extended struggle or “coming out” character arc.

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      Especially with the absolutely amazing way DS9 handled the Curzon/Jadzia thing.

      The way DS9 did the “of course they’re here and it’s no big deal because it’s the enlightened utopian future” inclusion with a character who was effectively trans was in the finest tradition of Trek, dating back to the first pilot of TOS. And you can tell there’s a “but” coming up because of the otherwise well-deserved praise that we’re heaping on here.

      But “Facets.”

      The episode that was based on the Sybil TV movie. The episode that made joined Trill explicitly plural. And they made a beeline for the long hackneyed “evil alter” trope that the plural community has been unfairly saddled with since 1886. As well as the “slutty alter” trope, but it was already pretty well established by that point that Curzon was a horndog.

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        The way DS9 did the “of course they’re here and it’s no big deal because it’s the enlightened utopian future” inclusion with a character who was effectively trans was in the finest tradition of Trek, dating back to the first pilot of TOS.

        Not just that, but Jadzia was an actual character who had a personality and contributed to the show. Same for Chekhov, or Uhura, or dozens of others who were fully realized characters first and foremost.

        Adira was just there, and nothing else. It felt like the entire character was just there to tick a diversity box, and nothing else.

        But “Facets.”

        Yeaaaaaahhhh…

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          Not just that, but Jadzia was an actual character who had a personality and contributed to the show. Same for Chekhov, or Uhura, or dozens of others who were fully realized characters first and foremost.

          Adira was just there, and nothing else. It felt like the entire character was just there to tick a diversity box, and nothing else.

          We agree entirely. It kinda felt like the writers on Disco eventually started treating main engineering like an skee-ball machine. It’s where they put the tokens.