The Foundation sees this as a contradiction to the EU’s own interoperability goals. Although XLSX is standardized as OOXML according to ISO/IEC 29500, Microsoft’s implementations often deviate from the specifications. Furthermore, features often change undocumented, which complicates compatibility with open-source software such as LibreOffice.

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    I kinda get it though. I think every single time in my life I’ve sent a document in the non-Microsoft format I’ve got a reply saying they couldn’t open it. That’s from LibreOffice and from Mac.

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      Either the person is lying, because MS Office claims compatibility with OpenDocument files, or it isn’t actually compatible and Microsoft itself is lying.

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      And everytime I get a document in a Microsoft format I send a reply asking if this or that is supposed to look that way or be that value. Yet it’s the open format and tools that’s an issue somehow.

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        That is supposed to be even with Microsoft office, because it changes the fonts without warning and adjusts the margins according to the default printer. It’s not a format designed to be shared with other people

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        One thing I do like from LibreOffice is the ability to save to PDF but also embed the original document inside it.

        That way almost anyone can see it as intended, and the original is still there for editing.

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          Whoa I didn’t know that was an option, is it part of the export menu? That would make some of my - we needed to change something after all - situations much easier at work.

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      Trying to get tech illiterate people to use LibreOffice and to export their documents as PDF but they just keep sending the original files every single time… nightmare material

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        In college my professor wouldn’t accept pdfs for assignments because I guess he couldn’t check the metadata or make comments or something.

        So I literally had to download MS office just to submit assignments in their format…

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            The web version is even worse! It’s all cloud-based, and you need a subscription unless your University pays for a license.

            The only reason to use it would be to write things in Libre and then copy/paste them into MS and manually fix all the formatting.

            I hated it, because all the professors could just smugly say “You know you have free access to Office 365 with your student email, right?”

            That’s not the fucking point! I don’t give a shit if it’s free, I don’t want to use a fucking microsoft product, especially one that’s cloud-based, when there’s a perfectly good open-source alternative that I can run locally on my own hardware.

            Just one of the many problems with the corporatization, commodification, and enshittification of education. If the focus was on learning and academic freedom, FOSS solutions would be encouraged. But no, you’re forced to use proprietary software, because “reasons” capitalism…

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              The web version is even worse! It’s all cloud-based, and you need a subscription unless your University pays for a license.

              You don’t actually need a subscription for the cloud web version actually. It’s ass though.