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    23 days ago

    It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.

    That said, I also think those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick are categorically not civilians. It is what it is.

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          23 days ago

          And expect the health insurance industry to act on that.

          Well Mr Johnson. We were looking through your onboarding package with Innertrode and can see you have a 6 year old daughter. We need to put her on the Uvalde plan because she is a child and they are prone to lead poisoning and mass hemorrhages which we won’t be covering. But if she gets the sniffles, we have it covered because you are family. Also we’ll need to talk to you about her reproductive health once she reaches marrying age next year

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        22 days ago

        I mean life has a 100% mortality rate, it’s just a matter of when.

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          22 days ago

          I’m not sure we have the data to support that statement. 8.2B / 108B = 7.6% of everyone who has ever lived is currently alive. Perhaps some fraction of that is immortal.

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        22 days ago

        Why should this piece of shit get more sympathy than a convenience store cashier who gets shot during a robbery?

        Because the mods get off on simping for the rich it seems.

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        22 days ago

        It’s apparently against community rules to discuss violence in any form.

        So instead let’s talk about giving CEOs bunnies. Everybody loves bunnies and maybe putting a bunny in a CEOs lap will show them the love they are sorely missing.

        Give every CEO a bunny. Give them 20. Give them bunnies while their backs are turned, surprise them with bunnies. Send them bunnies to their homes. Let them y know they are loved even while they’re away from work. Put bunnies in their beds, in their cars. No billionaire CEO should ever turn a corner without knowing a bunny is there waiting. Let the billionaires know the true depths of our love. With bunnies.

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            you can use alcohol to eliminate those, and there’s really no reason to retain those or even the uhhh. bunny cage? if they’re properly cleaned, because caliber can be determined just by forensics and is totally useless for most LE to know, unless you’re getting really weird with it. yeah. bunny caliber, the caliber of bunnies.

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        22 days ago

        Violence is the reason every judge tip toed around Trump. Violence is possibly the only factor America will listen to. It’s certainly the only language they speak.

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        22 days ago

        Even well executed and thought out peaceful non compliance only worked after taking a lot of beatings and with a bit of luck.

        And most importantly, with the threat of violence as the alternative.

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        22 days ago

        Peace can work too, but the Ivory towers types need to learn that ignoring peaceful protest, and undermining accountability and regulation, will inevitability lead to violence. He brought this on himself.

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            22 days ago

            Improvised bunnies in their cars, high powered bunnies 200 yards away in the bushes.

            They deserve bunnies.

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              You give them to the CEOs, the billionaires.

              Bunnies at every turn. Let them know that they can’t go outside without seeing a bunny. That they will know the love a bunny can give at every breath they take.

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          22 days ago

          Saying Eat the rich or related phrases is now a removable offense, apparently.

          Hey, mod, explain why you keep removing my posts.

          Down voting boot lickers. Keep it coming.

          Show your colors.

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      22 days ago

      Guillotines and the French Revolution disagrees with you. But good on you to pat yourself on the back with your superior morals.

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        22 days ago

        I don’t know if it’s morals, I just don’t have the stomach for violence. That’s kind of a weird thing to say to a person anyway.

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          I just don’t have the stomach for violence

          That’s exactly what rich people are counting on. They want you to roll over and take it up the ass.

          The freedoms you have today were obtained through bloodshed. So I’m not really sure what point you’re making other then you’re not willing to fight for anything.

          So you’d rather give up on everything and fight for nothing. Nice dude.

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            22 days ago

            Interesting, are you recruiting me to do something specific with you? Or should we just keep discussing how it’s immoral not to do violence on an extremely public forum?

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        22 days ago

        Fucking hell the mods are on a tear here. How does that boot taste?

        Also go fuck yourself, mods.

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      I almost commented that UnitedHealthcare doesn’t have a monopoly, but that’s really only true at a national level. In some US states, they’re the only option.

      The disgusting profits are a product the health insurance industry, they only make money by denying coverage. It’s an environment that encourages human suffering.

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      I love the “arbitrarily redefine what a civilian is” method of handwaving away a murder. It really shows that deep down, you would have an excuse to kill anyone.

      Exit: Downvote me all you want. If openly celebrating murder is how the left operates now, the left is even more doomed than I realized.

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        “those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick” is hardly arbitrary, though, is it. It’s quite a high bar to clear, that. It’s rational too, since they do many orders of magnitude more harm than e.g. a death row inmate, whom society is content to destroy.

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          23 days ago

          I never said the system was justified. You can’t both-sides this.

          This man isn’t the system, and he was murdered. That’s why it was murder. Like our healthcare system, it was unjust. I’m not celebrating injustice, no matter who it’s visited upon.

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            22 days ago

            This man isn’t the system

            This oligarch is the system… This oligarch made the decisions to implement those policies. They are, after all, the CEO.

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        23 days ago

        Buddy if you think it’s just the left operating this way I have some beach front property in Arizona for a good price.

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        23 days ago

        being judgmental towards the only person in the comments being even vaguely critical of murder because you can’t read

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        22 days ago

        It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.

        I am not celebrating. It’s a tragedy, even if a predictable one. We’ll all do better with a little more cooperation and a lot less greed.

        I don’t like it when people die, or get maimed.

        If I say that I can understand how something like this happens, it’s not out of sympathy for the murderer. It’s just an accounting of facts amidst the fact that billions of people exist so obviously someone is going to be willing to kill for their perceived injustices. Especially when injustices are a lot more concrete than abstract.

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          It’s a tragedy,

          Technically, and in reality, it’s not a tragedy. Technically, dying from a pre-existing condition as a health insurance exec is a comedy. In reality, it’s a net positive for society.

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            Life is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy to those who feel.

            I’m thinking a lot about this one.

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              I’d agree. He likely got great comedic value from the people dying as a result of his decisions; and thinks those people being healthy is a tragedy.

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        The ruling class isn’t a “civilian”, because they literally command armed forces.

        While not always called “armies”, their function is the same: Secure the interest of the capitalist class.

        Just like I wouldn’t call the POTUS a “civilian”, as the POTUS commands an armed force.