• halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    Oh definitely, but making those changes requires funding them. And that’s virtually impossible to get voters to approve in some places currently.

    • grue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      And that’s virtually impossible to get voters to approve in some places currently.

      Which is why the pain has to come first and therefore high oil prices are good.

    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      They really don’t require a lot of money. In an emergency, you can create a bike lane with nothing but a few traffic cones. Then later you can spend the money and put in a permanent install.

      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        3 days ago

        Much of Europe has the advantage here with simply existing before cars. Places that can’t fit car traffic, etc. so alternatives are either a requirement or already a higher priority than destroying existing infrastructure to make it fit.

        • grue@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          Much of Europe has the advantage here with simply existing before cars.

          First of all, American cities also existed before cars.

          Second, many European cities were rebuilt from rubble after WWII to accommodate cars.

          That factor is not nearly the excuse you think it is.

        • pet1t@piefed.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          3 days ago

          plus, certain places - like the city where I live, for example - opt for infrastructure and traffic rules that favour cyclists and pedestrians. that also helps

        • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          Europe was demolished during the world wars. Both the US and Europe mostly consist of post-WW2 buildings. Europe just chose to build more sensibly.