I listen to the Last Podcast on the Left and I’m learning now about the DuPonts. I’m astounded how it may seem like so little people know of them aside from the listeners. These are actual demons in living people to do the things they do. For example, they’re responsible for Teflon which is produced using C8 chemical. This is a forever chemical.

To give you an idea as to how royally fucked the world has been, Teflon is in numerous things that we use everyday. It is in the non-stick cookware we use. It’s in waterproof fabrics. Food packaging. Just a lot of shit. And we use these things - every. day. This chemical, once it is in you, it’s in you until even through death hence it being a forever chemical and there’s no way you can be rid of it. It can spawn cancerous cells in your body.

And I’m just listening to all of this thinking “Forget half of the shit we’re gearing our anger towards, it’s THESE people we need to draw and quarter!” because of the insurmountable damage and influence they’ve been in so many things that has everyone’s lives in a stranglehold.

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    but I see it like trying to fill a jug with a hole in the bottom.

    If viewed from the perspective that the community fridge isn’t solving the issue of the people near it needing it to be continuously resupplied, then yes, it is a ‘bottomless pit’. But at the same time, what it is providing is a somewhat constant relief from the system which created the circumstances for a community fridge to be needed, which means its also a source of endless/ongoing harm reduction.

    But, if the community fridge is viewed as one tool in our belt with which to build alternative systems that would eventually allow us to decouple from our current one, then it is not a bottomless pit, and instead is one very needed and useful stepping stone leading to a much more egalitarian and prosperous society that could eliminate food deserts and wage labor entirely. In that way, a community fridge is just one form of prefiguration. Specifically, a community fridge is building out one part of a gift-economy.

    If you’d like to see the end result of those efforts visualized in a very realisistic manner, I’d highly suggest The Dispossessed by Ursula LeGuin, which is a classic sci-fi novel based in an egalitarian gift-economy, and goes quite in-depth on how it functions.

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      I know The Dispossessed!

      I’m generally supportive of the idea of feeding people. I’m further supportive of like people helping people. I think the part that makes me apprehensive is that the system you describe fundamentally operates on assumptions that sidestep the matter of beneficiaries knowing the source of the benefits, which seems very dubious. The idea seems to be quite kind and selfless, but I still think this is a scenario where folks will fail to appreciate the kindness involved because they’re simply unaware of the effort made by numerous folks involved